Is it true companies can ruin your CDL for leaving an orientation?

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  1. Flat Earth Trucker

    Flat Earth Trucker Road Train Member

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    A meeting at midnight? Do you like piña coladas? Will an umbrella be necessary?
     
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  3. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    Might want to take a hammer and an oak stake along.
     
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  4. Frank Speak

    Frank Speak Road Train Member

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    Actually, I had something slightly different in mind.
     
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  5. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    I mean, are they even Kentuckian?
     
  6. Moose1958

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    There are 3 basic reasons that drivers don't finish orientation. The first one is either the recruiter lied, or the driver misunderstood something and discovered during orientation it would not work out and they left. The next reason is during the physical something that holds up the certification and the driver has to leave is discovered. This can also include OSA. The last reason is the drug test comes back hot.

    Yes, it is true that some carriers (NOT ALL) report unfinished orientations. The first reason I listed is not a problem just explain during the hiring process why you left. The last 2 are per se notum! So to sum this up, leaving orientation may be OK depending on why you did not finish.

    Another thing to watch out for is "inquiries" to databases like DAC. Let's say you applied to work for a carrier and during the hiring process they checked your DAC! DAC will list this. I remember talking to an HR type several years ago that round filed an app simply because there were almost 8 inquiries on the DAC over the last year. Credit Card companies will do this too, if they see too many credit inquiries they will turn you down.

    I don't have the URL information where to place the order, but every active driver should pull their DAC at least once a year to make sure all the information is correct.
     
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  7. MSWS

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    You said that you checked your DAC report. Have you also checked with Driver iQ? They might have something different, or more detailed, than DAC.
     
  8. Ridgeline

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    Yep they may be able to but the information is not relative to being employed by the new company.
    Yep, but it can't be part of your application, the legal requirement is if you were employed and work under the FMCSA regulations, you did not legally work for the carrier when you were in orientation, which means it stays off the application.
    They can't, it misrepresents your employment.
    It depends on whether the applicant had prior knowledge of the time and place of the drug test or not. If I am going to an orientation on Monday, nothing is mentioned about the drug test but come Tuesday I drop out from it 5 minutes before it is announced, they can't consider it a refusal legally.
    Not really, it goes back to another issue, if the test is scheduled for Friday, I quit on Tuesday, that's not on me, that's on the company. It can't be a refusal if the scheduling of the test is beyond a reasonable time, remember they are not my employers until I agree to compensation for my work.

    What tax credit?

    I wish people would stop spreading BS about tax credits.
     
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  9. Frank Speak

    Frank Speak Road Train Member

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    That’s my understanding, but I would certainly consider you a reliable source should you have conflicting intel.
     
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  10. Saltyoldone

    Saltyoldone Light Load Member

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    When I started I was scheduled to go to company A. I decided to go with company B and didn’t show up to company As orientation. Company B was not following HOS rules and I left 17 days into training and reported them to the FMCSA. Company C lasted 5 months because of a bipolar Dispatcher. I’ve been with company D for the last 4.5 years as a class B driver. Now 5 years later I’m trying to get back into the Class A world and had to get a lawyer to get company A and B to remove a Drug failure and termination respectively removed from my DAC.

    It’s all fixed now but long story short… Yes company’s can ef you over for leaving early.
     
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  11. wis bang

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    Don't forget the black hole of all driver information....TENSTREET

    they are going to make Hire Rite and others look like rookies.
     
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