Job applications; Fired or Laid Off?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Chinatown, Sep 12, 2016.

  1. White Dog

    White Dog Road Train Member

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    I understand what you're saying @KMac but around here, if you are fired for any reason, or no reason at all, you CAN file for Unemployment....however; if the previous employer contests it, 99.9% of the time the previous employer wins and you are denied.
    If you are laid-off for any reason, or no reason at all; the employer can not contest it (whether subject to call-back or not).
    It is the difference in the verbiage of 'terminated' vs. 'laid-off'.
     
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  3. Weeezerd

    Weeezerd Light Load Member

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    So should one leave out the work history with the employment that ended in termination?
     
  4. UsualSuspect

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    That depends. I usually found out via a credit report, or from a previous employer or reference. If you applied for a loan while you worked there, updated any loans, it is probably on there as a past employer. I don't want to sound sexist, but the best info. I was able to obtain was from female references/coworkers. While you may not give many references, I will usually call them and before I wrap up with them, tell them I need another reference, and most will give me one you didn't list.
    I would list it, be honest, no one wants to hire someone who has already been dishonest with them, they will wonder, what else have they failed to mention. They will most likely ask, tell them you were terminated, tell them you learned from the experience, then lead into your next job and how the one you were terminated from helped you prepare for it. If you were terminated from your latest job, swallow your pride, tell them you were terminated, why, what you learned from it, and how you plan on insuring it does not happen again, and move forward, even if it is BS.
    For anyone terminated or laid off, always rehearse a QA about it, try to find someone who will dig to quiz you. You need to sound confident, leave the ego at the door, but want them to know you have moved on and are ready for the next challenge. If you don't rehearse it, you will not sound convincing, and it will look like your hiding something. They are not there to make you uncomfortable, they are there to hire someone and are trying to find out who they are hiring, and sometimes it is not under the best circumstances. Trust me, they have probably heard it all before, I have stories that would make some of you cringe, there are some really weird people in the world.
     
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  5. Big Don

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    I believe that if it's from court cases, it's a little thing called "case law." And since no judge wants to be overturned on a decision, you can bet that most of them keep up on case law. This is true whether you are talking criminal or tort action.

    Nope. Yep. Not really. It depends. If you were a short term employee that was canned in a month or less, you might just want to "forget" that job. But even then, if it's a commercial driving job, you'd better list it, if it's within the required time frame.
    I guess a lot of it depends on your personal integrity. But as has already been mentioned, if the prospective employer discovers it, you aren't going to be hired. If they discover it after you are hired, you may be fired over it.
     
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