Just had a disturbing thought about electronic logging devices the other day.

Discussion in 'Trucking Electronics, Gadgets and Software Forum' started by Farmerbob1, Nov 23, 2019.

  1. Farmerbob1

    Farmerbob1 Road Train Member

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    First, please have a little respect here, friend. I'm not attacking you, or even being impolite.

    Think about what you are suggesting. The only way for the government to run freight "under the radar" would be for them to run it with their own vehicles, or require drivers to turn off their ELD devices and run non-compliant. I do not see enough military freight vehicles on the road to account for all military supplies across the nation. I suppose they might have a policy to only hire trucks so old that the drivers run on paper, but that's a losing proposition in the long run as more and more of those trucks come off the road.

    I am suggesting that anyone with access to ELD data on a large scale could reverse engineer quite a bit of very important/useful logistical data on US military supply chains and delivery schedules.

    You have yet to explain why you believe this to be impossible.
     
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  3. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    I think he has a point.
    Trucking companies know exactly where every one of their trucks are at all times and know what they're hauling and where their heading. BOL serial numbers are also on the ELD's.
    If trucking companies have all this information, then it can be hacked.
     
  4. Tx Countryboy

    Tx Countryboy Road Train Member

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    They could of hacked computer info before eld also.
    Lol
     
  5. Tx Countryboy

    Tx Countryboy Road Train Member

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    Too many paranoid people now days.
     
  6. Cat sdp

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    Yup, the eld companies are compiling the data and selling it.....

    The companies own the data I believe not the user
     
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  7. Tx Countryboy

    Tx Countryboy Road Train Member

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    4, 2019 · Owner-operators voluntarily submit their ELD data, usually in concert with their ELD supplier, via a one-time file transfer.
     
  8. Tx Countryboy

    Tx Countryboy Road Train Member

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    They gotta have a routing code like a bank to retrieve data
     
  9. LoneRanger

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    Why eld? Why not just hack the carriers computers to get BOL’s or even the brokers? Faster way I’d say plus they will know exactly what goes where from where.
     
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  10. Tx Countryboy

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    Insurers have approached Trimble (formerly PeopleNet), one of the nation’s largest ELD providers, about acquiring aggregate and individualized ELD data, says Eric Witty, vice president of products. But the company will provide such data only if customers sign a data-sharing agreement.
     
  11. not4hire

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    Rest assured any adversaries already know what they want to know about manufacturing and the shipments thereof. No doubt human assets have been updating that information for years. For the most part it is just general information, mostly useless, that can be gleaned from things like company annual reports and visual observation. However, anything really critical will be out of that sphere; eg., not obvious, not tracked, etc.

    Another factor that makes this somewhat implausible is the fact that while some hardware is likely sourced from foreign sources, it's just as likely to go into a smart toaster as an ELD; i.e., an ELD isn't that special or specific. I would expect most of the software is written locally.

    There is some truth to your premise though...

     
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