Left lane warning and level 3

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Kolorado, Jan 11, 2016.

  1. Treputt

    Treputt Medium Load Member

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    Perhaps for the sake of clarity, states that prohibit any trucks from using the far left lane, should post signs stating "ATTENTION! TRUCK DRIVERS! DO NOT USE THE LEFT LANE FOR ANY REASON! YOU WILL GET PULLED OVER! YOU WILL GET A TICKET! YOU WILL BE MOCKED BY THE JUDGE IN TRAFFIC COURT! YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!" Maybe then, some drivers will realize that those laws mentioned in those road signs they ignore, really do pertain to them.
     
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  3. UsualSuspect

    UsualSuspect Road Train Member

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    A few questions, how many lanes on your side, including the carpool lane? Was there a lane restriction at the time? I am not a practicing attorney, any advice here is not legal advice, and anytime you have legal questions, consult an Attorney.
    California requires commercial vehicles, slow vehicles, vehicles towing trailers, cars, etc; to be in the right most lane, but there are exceptions. The exceptions are if there are 4 or more lanes (Including the carpool lane, see People v Harris, San Bernadino County) going in your direction, you may be in the lane immediately to the left of the rightmost lane, it is signed allowing trucks to be in other lanes, the signage must state "TRUCKS OK" on a white background, with black printing, and an arrow pointing to the lane where trucks may also travel, and there must be signage when the lane usage ends. You may also turn left from the left lane, and passing, but you must be able to pass safely within a reasonable distance and amount of time. The vehicle code leaves reasonable up to the Officer's discretion, as well as distance.
     
  4. Mark Kling

    Mark Kling Technology Contributor

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    https://csa.fmcsa.dot.gov/Documents/SMSMethodology.pdf

    https://www.jjkeller.com/learn/compliance-safety-accountability-csa-faqs

    https://csa.fmcsa.dot.gov/faqs.aspx?stakeholders=3

    #39

    Why did I receive points for a warning ticket? Answer

    When enforcement discovers a driver breaking the law, the officer has several ways to impact the driver and the carrier he/she is representing. It is important to understand each of these ways, how each way impacts the carrier and driver, and how to remove each from your record. Enforcement can issue a citation or warning to a driver for breaking a State law. Citations can be defended in State court. Cases that are lost, or where the plaintiff pleads guilty, are called convictions. Convictions will impact the driver and could show up on the driver’s Commercial Driver’s License and Moving Violation Record.

    In addition, enforcement can give a violation on a roadside inspection report. These violations will appear in a driver’s Pre-Employment Screening Program record and could show up in the carrier’s Safety Measurement System (SMS) data. To know which violations are used in SMS, see Table A of the SMS Methodology located here: https://csa.fmcsa.dot.gov/Documents/SMSMethodology.pdf . Carriers and drivers can try to remove incorrect roadside inspection data from their record using DataQs (https://dataqs.fmcsa.dot.gov/ ). It is possible that a driver can receive a warning or citation with a roadside violation for the same incident. If the carrier or driver wants to protest both of them, they need to do each independently through the aforementioned process. The outcome of one doesn’t necessarily impact the other because each is in a different jurisdiction. Citations are adjudicated in State court, while DataQs is a Federal program.
     
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  5. Mark Kling

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    https://neareport.com/2016/09/08/law-left-lane-is-not-for-driving/

    Found this also..

    Special Fine for Speeding in Heavy Trucks: On interstate highways or state highways which have a posted speed limit for trucks different from other motor vehicles, a person driving a truck weighing ≥20,000 lbs. in excess of 5 mph of the posted speed limit is subject to a fine of $50 for each mph exceeding the posted speed limit in excess of 5 mph. This fine is in addition to all other fines and court costs. §27-50-311 Multiple Violations: Arkansas law also provides that it is a Class C misdemeanor to commit 3 violations within 12 months. Sanctions: jail — not more than 30 days; and, fine not more than $100. §§5-4-201(b)(3), 5-4-401(b)(3) and 2750-302(8)
     
  6. bluerider

    bluerider Light Load Member

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    I wish more left lane bandits would be ticketed (cars and trucks). Passing on the right is a bad habit also, especially when the left lane (otherwise known as the passing lane) is clear. It obviously annoyed the cop too, that's why the OP got a level 3 inspection.
     
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  7. KF7WTV

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    Well the booger of my situation is that 2 miles previous to being cited, I had split from another freeway. ( if you are familiar with Sacramento area it is where I 80 eastbound splits from 80 Business.) There are two lanes to split off on, but the right most of those is also an on ramp from another road. So on New Year's Eve, when it was dark, and there was moderately heavy traffic, I was unable to safely change lanes from the left hand lane despite using my blinker for most of those two miles. Because we all know just how courteous those four wheelers are to us... :rolleyes: The only time cars made enuf room was when the CHP had me lit up. I understand it is more than likely a lost cause, but it really was not my fault. This time. Lol
     
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  8. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    Look up the citation on the internet, regarding exactly which statute the officer cited you.

    California has an option for you to write your defense, I forget the term used on the ticket. My brother was cited for being in left lane of a three lane freeway on a few years ago. He was passing two slow moving rock haulers blocking both right lanes, and he made the pass to avoid damage from rocks flying off the rock loads.

    I helped my brother write his defense. We cited a California law that says you can't block traffic driving side by side on the freeway, noting that the rock haulers (both from the same company) should have been cited rather than my brother.

    You have to"pay the fine" to submit a written defense. My brother received a check in the mail a month later reimbursing him for the ticket. The stub said "Exonerated".
     
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  9. UsualSuspect

    UsualSuspect Road Train Member

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    The term for a written defense is "Trial by Declaration". Not all Courts allow it, some mandate you appear. A prime example is Santa Barbara allows it, but the next county south, Ventura, does not. It is up to the local Court if they allow it.
     
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  10. KF7WTV

    KF7WTV Medium Load Member

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    Yeah I've heard of trial by declaration. I have until beginning of March to do my research.
     
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  11. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    I bet you're a lot of fun,lol.I got a good laugh at you signature line,lol.Now about your post,that may work at first but then that sign will just be words and meaning only a suggestion.Who reads anymore and who takes signs seriously.
     
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