Legal to pull a tanker with no tanker endorsement?

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  1. LTL Bull

    LTL Bull Road Train Member

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    So my boy and I recently left the flatbed operation we were working for and I ended up with a dry bulk outfit and he ended up at one of the large local farmers co op. He does not have a tanker endorsement and has been pulling grain wagons and dry vans for them. Today they wanted him to pull a non hazardous tank trailer. He told them that he couldn’t as he doesn’t have a tank endorsement. The higher ups, to include the safety director told him that he could pull it without an endorsement “because of the type of work we do”. Is there some sort of exemption for agriculture services that allows this? I’ve never heard of such a thing
     
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  3. woolybully35us

    woolybully35us Medium Load Member

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    if it's dry bulk tanker he is ok. if liquid then he needs tanker endorsement. i believe
     
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  4. LTL Bull

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    It was some sort of non hazardous liquid fertilizer,
     
  5. Judge

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    Need tanker, even if it’s former portable tanks mounted permanently onto a chassis, to operate a vehicle that has Loaded liquid or gas containers. Cargo that includes liquid or gas containers with a capacity greater than 119 gallon.
    You do not need a tanker endorsement to haul dry bulk freight, such as plastic and wooden pellets, flour or grain.
    These regulations are designed to include tanker vehicles as well as dry vans that haul large containers. One example of these containers is Intermediate Bulk Containers(IBCs), which hold well over 119 gallons.

    From Fmcsa

    a tanker endorsement is required on the CDLs of all drivers who carry liquid loads that total or exceed 1,000 gallons. That 1,000 gallons may be in one tank or distributed across multiple tanks of 119 gallons or more.
     
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    A tanker endorsement is not needed for dry bulk. I hauled cement and lime for years before I got my endorsement.
     
  8. wulfman75

    wulfman75 Road Train Member

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    Honestly though tanker is really easy to get. you just go down and take a test on the computer.
     
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  9. LTL Bull

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    I’m pulling dry bulk and have tanker, they tried to get him to pull a liquid tanker and he does not have endorsement
     
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    In Wisconsin, if it is strictly for farm use, it's considered a motorized feed wagon, and no endorsements or license plate is needed. I believe there is a max radius they can go.
     
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    This is what they want him to pull
     
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