Load Canceled After 60+ Loaded Miles

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  1. pwahlbom

    pwahlbom Bobtail Member

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    Had a load the other day that got canceled after loading and heading 60+ miles down the road. What am I owed? Do I invoice the broker, possibly go against their bond, and settle there?? I think I am owed the loaded miles rate (120 miles @ $5.26/mile), but they're talking $150 TONU. Please, any advise would be greatly appreciated. I've never ran into this situation before. Thank you!

    More detail here if your interested:
    The reason the load was canceled is because the shipper incorrectly stated the weight at 10K. It was actually 20k+. This shipper loaded 8 hotshots this way. I do believe each and everyone of us was over GVWR (truck, trailer, and axles), and most were over registered GVW as well. Most of us scaled and then started calling each other and the broker and alerting everybody. We were able to contact 6 of the 8 drivers, and all 6 came back to the shipper to unload. Not sure what the final 2 did.

    These 8 special containers (40' CAT generator pods) were a rush job and paying $5.26 / mile on 190 miles. I know some people would say I should have run it, but there were 2 weigh stations on the route, and didn't want to break my equipment either!

    To sum up my thoughts I'll just paste a portion of my email to the broker here:

    "Bob, this is not a simple TONU situation. Your going to have to rethink that. I deadhead 90 miles for this load, and I was on site Friday evening. First in line Saturday AM, got loaded. CONFIRMED the weight with the shipper, and had them sign a BOL that indicated the weight they stated. I got 60 miles down the road, only to learn the load was 10k over declared weight. 60 miles back and unload. 90 miles back to terminal.

    TONU is when you show up at the shipper, someone cancels, and they send you home BEFORE you load and head down road. I drove 120 loaded miles for you and this shipper.

    You need to go back and work with the shipper about their culpability for causing this situation. This has cost me nearly a full day and 300 miles."
     
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  3. OlegMel

    OlegMel Light Load Member

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    They can’t pay you TONU because they used the truck…. So $200 for loading and securing and the miles 120 miles at $5 a mile for the driving part id say. Next time make sure you have a new rate con before you drop the load off at the shipper. If you don’t have rate con once load is dropped off than you’ll get played like a cheap hooker…
     
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  4. pwahlbom

    pwahlbom Bobtail Member

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    I was afraid you were going to say that driver, "Next time get a new rate con...". Will do! Thanks for the advice. Much appreciated.
     
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  5. OlegMel

    OlegMel Light Load Member

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    No worries… always keep your s covered…. Many shady brokers out there…. I’ve had situations where I was paid a tonu and layover on the same load… also situations where they didn’t want to pay for a $3500 load that was delivered without damage and on time….
     
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  6. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I agree, but will add that when you were notified & told to return, I would have ask for a rate con before heading back. I'd have parked & let him know I needed a rate con before starting back that way.
    I also agree, the rate should be 5.26 x 120.

    I picked up a load in Haltom City, TX & going to San Antonio, TX one time. I got within 30 miles of San Antonio when they called me & asked where I was. I just thought they were checking on me, my progress and an ETA. Nope, they told me to turn around & come back. They offered the same rate to come back the entire miles (made for a total round trip in pay). I asked why & they said someone shipped product to the customer who already had an over due balance from previous loads. The boss found out they shipped it and said he wasn't shipping any more product to them until they paid the original bill.... bring it back.
    Made for a good deal for me cause I didn't have a another load booked to pick up in San Antonio yet. Got lucky that time.
     
  7. JimmyTwoTimes

    JimmyTwoTimes Medium Load Member

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    I think asking for your RPM for your loaded miles is fair. I'm not sure if you have a relationship with the broker but I'd try being reasonable first, and if that doesn't work file against their bond. Worst case the bond provider ends up denying it, but it sounds like there is a paper trail here indicating the fault lies with the shipper or broker, and not you.
     
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  8. Concorde

    Concorde Road Train Member

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    Here’s my worthless opinion..
    If you needed to go back to the shipper for being overweight anyway those miles are on you. I don’t feel like your cancellation is really any different than going back for a rework.
    Have them take everything off and collect the tonu..crap happens.
    I suppose you could push them for miles driven to the nearest scale and back but is it a bridge you don’t mind blowing up?

    I would calculate miles from shipper to nearest scale on or off route. If there was one five miles away then that’s the one you should have used.
     
  9. JimmyTwoTimes

    JimmyTwoTimes Medium Load Member

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    Concorde brings up a great point. If this wasn't the closest weight station are you also at fault for not scaling sooner?
     
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  10. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Take the TONU and learn the lesson.

    A 40 foot CAT generator aint gonna weigh no 10k lbs. Unless it's made of aluminum, or cardboard.

    The situation smells of general laziness. Shipper didn't state weight to broker, or broker ignored weight, and 8 hotshots all decided this was a great opportunity to make some $$. The other 2 drivers turned up with overworked equipment, and dodged the rules that most of us abide by. Good for them.

    Anybody have onboard scales?

    Anybody call the shipper and get a serial number before loading , do an internet search for specs?

    If they loaded with a crane, did anyone ask the crane operator how much they weighed?

    Any of the 8 hotshots have a clue?

    I don't turn the key until I've got all the facts. Sure, I don't work much with that mentality - but my time is rarely wasted.

    $631.20 for a 24 hour day - at least now I know what the competition is hauling for.

    Take offense if you like, that's just my worthless opinion.
     
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  11. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    I don't think the broker is going to be a happy camper asking the shipper for $1,000 plus in TONU for 6 pickup trucks - unless the broker is making WAAAAAY more than he's passing on to the drivers.

    Now he just has to pay the TONU's, and go find 8 trucks that can actually haul the product.
     
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