Log book vs. 100 mile radius rule

Why can't you do this with a log book? You still have to fully comply with the 10 hour break, 11 drive time, 14 duty cycle (actually 12 because if you go over 12 you must log it even if local). It will not give you any advantage if you are running compliant, if you are trying to get these loads in when you should be off duty then I hope you reconsider. Just because the load is local and doesn't need to be logged does not mean it is not accounted for, just like any time at another non-driving job is counted against your break time (10 and 34 hour) and available time for the week (60 or 70 hour total).

 

Here you go...
https://www.daftlogic.com/projects-google-maps-distance-calculator.htm
The instructions are at the bottom of the page.

 

I am my own company with my own yard, time starts at 0800 Friday morning. Check my equipment, drive to the load pickup point that is 93 nautical miles away and get loaded in about 2 hours. My time will now be about 12 or 12:30, drive back to my yard arriving around 1430 or 1500 but it could be 1700 on a bad day. I will have more than a 10 hour break on Friday night and Saturday since my departure will be sometime Sunday, I also will have a time sheet record with claim of the exemption. Departing Sunday for the Monday morning drop will require a log book entry since this will take about 12 hours to drive, take my off duty for the Monday morning unload and head back to my yard using proper log book entries.

Please enlighten me if I am wrong or if I am missing something, I am a bobtail member for a reason. Wet behind the ears and green as a gourd but I do have a big coat tail to ride on for these loads and want to conserve my log book for the upcoming 8 days in 30 rule for paper logs.

 

Just CYA and fill out a log for that day. I have to do the same thing when I run past 12 hours.

 

There are other advantages to "local" running...you don't have to take that silly 30 minute break if you meet the requirements to claim the 100 air-mile radius exemption. On the days you're claiming local, show your start time by dropping to line 4, and return to line 1 indicating your stop time. Total up your hours, write "Local Log" in the remarks section, and make sure the other "required info" is on there...name, date, etc...

On the days you don't qualify for the exemption, log your changes of duty status as you go.

 

By running inside the exemption area does this count towards the 8 days in 30 day rule that will go into effect after 2017?

 

As long as you meet the requirements to claim the 100 air-mile exemption, using the RODS graph to show the required info your company is required to keep as a record of your hours worked is perfectly legal and does not affect you at all in regards to the 8 days in 30...you are STILL claiming the local exemption on those days whether you record your hours on a time card or on line 4.

And yes, as soon as you breech that 12th hour, you no longer meet the requirements for claiming the exemption and must complete the RODS graph-grid to reflect each change of duty status throughout the day...recollected to the best of your ability. As long as you quit at your starting location inside of 12 hours and you didn't venture beyond that 100th air-mile, then you're fine on line 4 the whole day.

 

Thank you very much! This is the way that I was understanding the requirements.

 

Now I see what you are trying to do, get around the electronic log book not around the hours of service themselves. I incorrectly thought you were trying to come up with a magic way to increase your weekly hours totals, didn't even think about working around the e-logs. I like it, it will work if you can keep your days outside the local exemption at or under 8, which it sounds like you can.