Long Haul Trucking Paying 90%......REALLY?

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  1. MOGLAR

    MOGLAR Heavy Load Member

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    What company would that be?

    Now about LHT. (just an opinion)
    Incidently I have been pretty jaded against companies that have both company drivers and owner operators (I mean real owner operators....not leech purchse company drivers). Its been my experience the company trucks will always get fed first it regardless of what the company tries to tell you. Basically company truck will always get the cream of the crop freight. Would like to hear from LHT O/O
     
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  3. Junkyarddog5958

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    I know good friend who drives for an o/o for LHT and several who are company drivers. The loads don't seem to vary regardless who you are, truck is a truck. That's all I can say on that.
     
  4. MOGLAR

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    Unless you have a operational insight into their logistical operation I doing think anyone (other than the load planners) would really know. Basically manipulate the loads to favor the company. I am just interested for some feedback (eitherway).

    Have I been bit by leasing on with a carrier that also has company trucks. Oh yes I have......and I learned. :evil3:

    Now understad that I am not saying that LH does this this to their O/O. I am curious.
     
  5. MOGLAR

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    I have leased onto 2 different companies that also had company drivers. I will never do it again......ever. This is for O/O that have full control of their trucks and can go where ever they want. (I have ceased bashing LP drivers cause its a waste of my energy....hence my above re-wording lol) :argue:

    First the company will feed themselves first. They always will. The only exception is if you are in the "good ol boys club" or are in tight with the owner. That is the fact. The higher revenue loads WILL be set aside for the company trucks. Loads will be cherry picked and you will get what they want you to have. Take it or leave it. EDIT: While drivers and some O/O will maintain that they dont see any difference.....they drivers and O/O wont really know unless they are involved with the actual load planning and dispatch. I had a good experienced O/O friend that left LH and went to Landstar after uncovering some of their preferential company driver dispatching methods....to insure that LH will get the biggest bang for the buck. AKA keep the juicy loads for the company drivers. As an O/O you CANNOT operate on a playing field that is rigged from the inside. Literally all O/O...Company driver companies run like this...not just LH.

    At the end of the day you WILL be in competition with company trucks. Be very wary of dual operation companies that use O/O and company drivers/LP drivers. :banghead:

    Obviously the company will put a pure and innocent face on.....but that is further from the truth.
     
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  6. x1Heavy

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    We were a team, we ran 220,000 miles in 306 days out (More than 100 miles from primary home) Fuel was $75,000 dollars for the year. A set of Bobtail tires was 3200 or so. A pair of steers replaced out of season due to steel defects was another 550. Two alternators came out of it burned up. Two tows for a bricked software automatic transmission incident. Both tows thankfully was back to FFE Lancaster in Dallas from local. An oil change once a month. Sometimes #### near two per month.

    Those figures was with a Company freightliner 2001 in FFE as a husband wife team. I published this post to show that the two of us was turning over coast to coast twice a week, say sun pm avenel NJ to LA by wed afternoon, depart in a few hours, return to Avenel Friday PM. Drop, hook back to LA we go possibly Monday midday target. I don't know what the miles per hour average. I always preplan a trip at 30 mph, company fleet average is supposed to be 45. We fueled every 30 hours or so with 280 gallons of fuel and reefer fuel no matter how thirsty it is. 5 gallons of Rotella T in one side box, and three gallons of cooling fluid in the other. We cooked aboard the truck. Stopped once a month in Lairame Walmart WY to purchase approximately 700 pounds of food for two people plus 10% extra to help others in storms and water was 6 cases of quart bottles under the bunk at all times.

    I was paid salary with a specific prescribed training regimen to get spouse settled as a team. 1450 net weekly generated approximately 11,000 dollars in savings by the end of my time as a trainer. Spouse generated 600 dollars a week on average. Our house bills was negligible. Paid for free and clear.

    When we started to count the miles rescuing accounts when single drivers were late because they sit around New Mexico for a day or two gambling we run after them and grab their loads and swing em in to the receiver who is essentially ready to tell the company where to stick the load. If spouse was occupied or in her rest period at the yard, I was paid 45 dollars or so per recovery of tractor around the dallas forth worth area. I got pretty good at it. Ive been told they would pay 3000 dollars to a private bounty recovery man per rig. But who is this they and how would you find out about the lost rigs usually stabotage or hidden by the former employees? Hmm...

    Anyways, some of you talk about mileage as a single driver or as a team driver. I posted with a focus to demonstrate that mileage is well and good when you are drop hooking in drop lots like the one in Memphis or the yard in McKesson also in Memphis Or in company yards all over the USA. Drop, Hook, gone 20 minutes. Gravy gravy gravy.

    We did appreciate the oppertunities we had that year in 2001. but after 2001 it was time to get out of the racket it had become. Not to mention the idea that we are now, and still are at war. So...
     
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    *there
     
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  8. Junkyarddog5958

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    School is in session lol.
     
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    Just curious, where does the war tie into this and that's a buttload of food
     
  11. x1Heavy

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    2001 killed the freight as people fled into hiding so to speak.

    Then our Government took on a official stand that we are at war Globally. Lieberman and one other Senator together founded what was to become the Dept of Homeland Security that year in the Senate. We started to see TWIC cards after, restricting people from being able to simply walk up to the ship. Everything happening since then is a impact of war.

    This war has been a opportunity for changes that our Founders have warned against if a Government is for the People of the People. It is no longer such. You see militarized police. You see devices such as cell jammers that were used in Iraq and are being used in the Democratic Convention (As reported earlier today) to prevent people from live streaming the violence at the gates of such.

    We are not truly at war in the style of world war two where a ration card gave you 48 points per period of time and a good can of soup cost 6 of that. We are slowly losing our culture in many ways and stand silent when things happen across the board and do nothing. If I was to get really particular and start writing out some, I know the Moderators will delete this post making your question look silly Mr Skateboardman?

    I know that you are asking a good question and hope that you are not trolling. This internet is no longer a decent place for millions to communicate without descent into the things that are used against one another to create division and discord.

    To answer the other question, 700 pounds in addition to us two made for a thousand pounds added to the tare weight of the tractor trailer. For a team that sort of restricts what we can haul off a load board, but again that was not our goal. Our position was to run and rescue freight that stood to cause accounts to be saying to the company, you are done with us. Your single drivers are lazy and slothful. Enough.

    The 700 pounds consisted of 100 pounds of water, in cases below the bunk, 40 of that was frozen meats or as nearly so we can keep without it spoiling for a week to ten days. 60 was in the form of dry foods which is not that heavy. That accounts for 200 to 250 pounds. Then you have the long term storage bins secured to the upper sleeper that contained everything necessary to process, cook, clean up, disinfect, chemical toilet, extra packets of same to sustain a layover in a place with no toilets such as a dock and so on. Clothing, electronics, detergent to wash same and on and on.

    Dispatch usually are interested in our weight net when the two of us are ready to go. That last year on the road incorperated everything I have experienced and learned not to do, such as be caught without water and food. Or be caught without spare parts, bolts, oil, etc etc etc. Tools too. By 2001 our position was very simple. Get the paper forms and supplies from Headquarters enough so that we do not return to headquarters for 6 months. We are literally intent on being so busy we have no time to go past headquarters if it takes that long. For a number of months Laramie WY was our home away from home, The walmart super center there provided everything at one time, once a month.

    Therefore the other goal was met. If you had a months worth of food, water etc for two people... you never need a truckstop except to fuel. Keeping that left door shut is the biggest support in making money in trucking.

    That takes care of war. That takes care of 700 pounds in the cab and that is that. I don't care to go over everything else you might question. For that you can use advanced search, type me in as a author and then a word that defines a question you might have, somewhere in the mountain of posts you might find what you are seeking, you might not.

    Everything we did on the road is usually to support rolling off the miles. Not sitting around. There is no further explanation left on these two questions.

    So many people in trucking take off for the one coast or another with inadequate clothing, nothing to fall back on, no savings, 10 bucks in the pocket and no water or food. If you cannot take care of yourself far from headquarters and far from home 9 months of the year that you have in the time between chain season months to make very good money in trucking then there is no point in going out there on the big road.

    I can type further, but I will not. I visit this site now and then and don't mind answering questions. Once. When it becomes to where it's repeated then we will not be made fools of because the information given is already given.
     
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