Made to use PC to leave shippers/receivers to benefit the company

Please PLEASE stop using the words 'Safe Haven' - unless it is hazmat Class 1 loads.

 

Your thought process is very conservative and will serve you well. I agree, I never like to draw attention unnecessarily. Of the times I've used PC, I've literally only gone to the store to reprovision my food/drinks at a grocery or when I had a coffin sleeper to go to a restaurant. I always keep the receipts with a note to correlate those stops to my PC trip, so I could prove where I was and when. Knock on wood I've only run out of hours once enroute to Denver when Glenwood Canyon was closed. I ran out of hours under load on I-25 and I was 10 mins from my destination at our drop yard. If my truck wasn't a 65mph mega governed truck I probably could have made it. I PC'd the remaining 10 mins to my drop yard, shut down and took my 10. Illegal? Yes. But I knew Glenwood was closed, so I gambled and lost on hours. No one to cry to if I would have got pinched by DOT. Being me, I would have have immediately pointed it out to a inspector, told them reasoning and hopefully they would be reasonable for a one time, 10 min violation. If not, well you gotta pay to play.

 

My trainer used yard move as soon as the tires crossed a curb. Hit the guard shack at shipper/receivers...Yard move. Cross the sidewalk into the truckstop....Yard move. His words..." If you ain't on the roadway, you need to be on Yard Move."

 

But let's be honest, who hasn't 1st geared around the truck stop to get fuel after a 10 to keep the clocks off?

 

Supposed to be inside a secured facility only and different companies have different policies on what you can use and how fast you can go on it and all that. It’s not a universal thing.

 

I believe you are right that companies can set the policy of use for their drivers. But it's info like below that doesn't help us.

Yard moves” is the term for transfers of CMVs between locations within a terminal or similar facility on private property. Yard moves may not occur on a “highway,” as defined in § 390.5T, i.e., any road, street, or way, public or private, that the public can operate a four-wheeled vehicle on that is not restricted by signs or gates. Under the regulations for electronic logging devices (ELDs), yard moves are classified as on-duty not driving time. But just what is a “yard?” FMCSA is trying to better define that term. On January 4, 2021, the Agency published proposed guidance with examples of properties that would and would not qualify as a “yard” (86 FR 179). Yard move status could be used “only if the movement of the CMV occurs in a confined area on private property (or intermodal facility or briefly on public roads …)” For further details, please see the January 4, 2021 Federal Register notice.

Source - https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/sites/fmc...OS-395-DRIVERS-GUIDE-TO-HOS(2022-04-28)_0.pdf

 

So, according to a bunch of you, i can PC home to Salinas, CA from Hunts Point Market in the Bronx, nonstop since i'm not on Line 3???

 

I guess you could if you were doing it on your own time, no load, no pay.

 

Pinched by DOT? I’d be more worried about getting pinched by my company; better to just have stayed on driveline and notate that there was an “unexpected” closure. PC misuse is one of the quickest way to get fired, 2 strikes and you’re out; vs something like minor safety or log violations which operate on a rotating 12-month points system.

Staying on the driveline would’ve probably resulted in zero company repercussions if notated and was an isolated event.