Managing your HOS to avoid 34 hour reset?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by RedRover, Sep 11, 2016.

  1. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Minor nit-pick to clarify for the op. It's 70 hours combined on-duty and driving, not just driving.
     
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  3. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    You can absolutely exceed 70 hours in 8 days just cannot drive if you are at the 70 hour limit; there is no limit for Off Duty, no limit for Sleeper, no limit for On Duty.
     
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  4. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Exactly. That's not what you said though. You said "exceed 70 hours driving". I was just pointing out the 70 hour clock includes on-duty time also. Not just drive time like you stated.
     
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  5. ethos

    ethos Road Train Member

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    Exactly, couldn't put it better myself. I never get all these strategies for avoiding a 34. As I always say, if you logged right, you should be happy about a 34 because that means you ran hard.
     
  6. CK73

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    Most efficient way to run is using the 34 hour reset as hometime whether home or not.

    Sleeping and resetting close to the shipper or receiver has obvious advantages if one is willing to push the envelope.

    Personally I don't care to be a supertrucker and just roll with punches alternating between resets and hometime depending on the circumstances.

    9K miles is enough.. Anything over is sausage gravy. Keep it simple. Don't stress.
     
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  7. x1Heavy

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    What gets me is there is no limit to unloading stuff in a trailer by lumping. Ive actually put in 24 to 30 hours a few loads here and there back there straight through. It's hard to believe I am a winner here. The customer is. Stacking to order big wood onto small wood.

    Like anything else in my wasted life, it takes me a while to think oh... I should stop running that kind of freight and do strictly drop hook where possible. Eliminate that money losing labor from my life.
     
  8. RedRover

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    What a blast from the past. I’m like 300k miles and probably 50k more at least that I’m not remembering because I didn’t keep track of all the team miles, from where I was when I made that post.

    Many many resets ago. I still prefer to avoid resetting when possible but I run whatever is necessary to get the loads delivered. Currently I’m blessed with a job that puts as many miles in front of me as I want to run and with few exceptions they have big open windows so if I don’t want to push it, they can be scheduled for the next day or whatever.

    But after 2-3 weeks of recap, I actually need a reset whether I have hours coming back or not. Usually I don’t because I’m pulling open decks now. If I don’t have a load that requires driving all weekend, it’s either 34 time or it’s me babying the load 200 miles a day or something to just have something to do or to get to a better area for a day off. It’s nice to have that kind of flexibility.

    I will say, the company I’m at, almost everyone is doing a reset every weekend. Starting early Saturday morning and getting as far as they can by mid day, then parking until Monday morning. They are the kings of the reset. We also have people who are very very efficient and still run just as many miles recapping every week they are out. We have all kinds.

    I think the thing that hasn’t really changed since I made this post is that I still don’t like the idea of sitting on my ### for a day and a half a week away from my family. I’d rather have something to show for that time I spend away. But there is definitely a place for taking some time off whether you have hours or not. I’m every bit as likely to do a 34 when I have 20 hours of recap coming back over the next 24 and time on my clock, than I am having no hours whatsoever. I don’t let my company or anyone move my truck for me.

    When I’m getting tired or frustrated, I start to get stupid and make mistakes, have near misses. I’ll let the planner for the area I’m going to know that when I get where I’m going, I need to take a day or I need to take a 10 when I get unloaded even if I have 8 hours left to drive for the day and just took a 10.

    I love driving. No idea why truckers act like it’s anything but a blessing to be able to drive instead of having a real job. So when it starts feeling like a job or I start getting frustrated or want to yell at a planner or something, I get out of the truck or take a nap. I do something else. That’s what I use the 34, or 10... or 8, or whatever I end up taking off, for.
     
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  9. TehBeardedTrucker

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  10. TripleSix

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    Can you imagine...

    Having a conversation with your past self? Your past self comes in with this plan to just get the foot in the door at some 3rd rate company, and run balls to the wall, and avoid doing restarts because you “gotta go, gotta go gotta go!”, and the idea of sitting idle is utterly repulsive. And your current self say, “Dude, you’re wound too tight. Relax, do your best, and enjoy those 34s.” Your past self would ignore your current self, and your current self is trying to tell past you that, I USED TO BE YOU.

    You’ve done well in your career. Work ethic took you straight to the top. Many times, the first thing people talk about is where they won’t go and what they won’t do...then they complain about their money. Many times, you see people asking about what’s the best company, as if the best company increases your odds at success. It’s not the name of the company that counts, it’s the driver that makes the difference. You say that to new people and they will ignore you. And you want to say to the new guy, “Hey dude, I USED TO BE YOU.”
     
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  11. Moose1958

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    @TehBeardedTrucker quoted this!

    Sometimes, in fact most times as a company driver operating under forced dispatch you don't have the luxury of doing this. In fact I would almost go as far as saying that this is borderline bad advice because it sets up a situation where a driver with plenty of clock time starts arguing with dispatch over available hours. Best advice is and always will be run the freight. Those resets suck sometimes I know.
     
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