One of the biggest problems with Christianity (which is my faith too), is a problem with those who think it is their position to tell others how, where, when and what to do. Do you think that will keep those who offend sensibilities from doing so again? Many of these "most proper" believers are the biggest hypocrites. Once again, I'm with you fnlou; I don't like some things people do - but if it is not my place - it is simply not my place.
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My 2 & 1/2 Years with McElroy Truck Lines, Inc.
Discussion in 'Discuss Your Favorite Trucking Company Here' started by fnlou88, Jun 10, 2010.
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MD STEELERS FAN - read and research and study on the matter all that you are able. Only make the leap into TRUCKING when you feel that you are aware and prepared for ALL of it, because trust me Brother - there is good and bad in every pursuit, and trucking has it's own very unique set of "B.S." attached to it, but it can be a "living" and it has it's rewards if it is meant for you.
banjer picker: AMEN Brother! I agree with your entire post!MD STEELERS FAN Thanks this. -
Thanks, I've always wanted to this. If I have to wait a little longer I will. I've already waited this long so little longer won't hurt. i don't know uf I told you but Iwent to a company paid training almost 2 years ago, passed with a 98% great. Went out with a trainer not so great, wouldn't let me do much especially backing. I would be driving down the road and he would be cursing and yelling at the top of his lungs at whoever was on the line. I didn't know that I could ask for another trainer or I would have.
But the times he was peacefull i loved driving that big truck sand was pretty good at it according to him. After testing out in my home state and didn't pass the backing part I got very frustrated and quit. Thats the short version. Ireally want try again at my local community college. -
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Two of the hardest things a "newbie" has to deal with you have already experienced first hand - 1)Backing and 2)Driver Trainers.
I too was HORRIBLE at backing when I first started. Went I was going through driving school, the only backing manuevers they actually focused on were the two that Virginia DMV requires in the CDL-A test - Straight back and Curve back. There were so many of us in my class and there were only two tractor-trailers, so each day we would only get about 3 or 4 tries to do the manuever. As I had NEVER even pulled a trailer or boat behind a pickup truck, I was absolutely clueless as to what I was doing. One day one of the instructers gave me a "tip" that started me on the pathway to "getting it". So I will pass this along to you if it helps at all:
Right to Arrive, Left to Leave. So what this means is if you are looking at the driver's side mirror and you want the trailer to come towards you (arrive into your mirror's view or move to your left), then you turn the wheel to the right. If you want the trailer to move away from you (leave from your mirror's view or go to your right), then you turn the wheel to the left.
So when I first started out and needed to do a 90 degree drivers side back, I would simply say "right to arrive" and it would help me remember until it became second nature.
As to O.T.R. Trainers - you've got to remember that most of them that I have met would simply rather be driving alone. They merely do training because they like the extra $$, the bigger/nicer truck, and in the case of flatbedding - a live in tarp folderMy McElroy O.T.R. trainer was a decent guy and very knowledgeable and patient, BUT he could also be a difficult person to have to deal with 24 hours a day for five days a week. All I ever asked of him (beyond teaching me the ropes of course) was could we stop at a truck stop occasionally so I could grab a shower and a cup of coffee. His answer was "only if we can't park at the consignee". Naturally, he wasn't a coffee drinker and I was going through serious withdrawls LOL! There were several times during the weeks with him that I would have to get out of the truck and call my wife and say "I can't hardly take much more of this guy" and she would patiently remind me how I only had _____ number of days left and then I will be out there all by myself. Thank God she did. I think the attitude you should try to adopt is - "I'm not going to let this guy rob me of my dream".
Best Wishes Brother!banjer picker, PCDoctor, LittleDutchmaster and 2 others Thank this. -
True, the thing I think made me the maddest was the weekend before my CDL test in MD was he knew I neede a little more practice. We had the weekend off and instead of him helping me he went out the whole weekend with his freinds while I sat at the terminal all weekend not doing any thing except looking at the inside of the truck. Thanks for letting me vent much appreciated.
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I was always wanting a bit more "backing practice" too. It was the only thing that ever gave me the slightest bit of problem. I ACED the PC tests at the DMV. And I ACED the "Driving around town" part of the DMV driving test. BUT, the "backing" was a sweat-it-out deal for sure.
Another little "backing up" tip for ya: Small "corrections" only need "small wheel turns". Most newbies want to freak out and crank the wheel all the way around and next thing ya know they are jack-knifing the trailer LOL! If you are only "off" by 10 degrees or so, then only turn the wheel a few degrees in the proper direction. Also, a proper set-up is KEY. Try to get yourself a straight back whenever possible. If that isn't possible or practical, then try to set up a driver's side back. DON'T mess around with blind-side backs until you have a good handle on what you are doing.
And finally, don't try to be a "hero". Get Out And Look as many times as you need to when trying to get into tight spaces. As Ben Franklin famously said - "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure".PCDoctor and LittleDutchmaster Thank this. -
Thats very true thats how I was taught.Then got to the testing site an aced the pre trip, straight line backing, forward stop, site side jack knife parking. Before I started my alley dock I asked the officer how many get out and looks we could use he said 0. Md doesn't let you have any. I didn't understand why we weren't allowed to. Its the safest way to back. Thanks for all the hints. My trainer did most of the backing when I was with him, he always said all this one is for more expierenced drivers. Then why was I here, I should haved asked him I guess.
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FNLOU88, I enjoyed your backing tips. Regarding straight-line backing, my instructor here in NC told me to watch the side markers at the rear of the trailer, and when one of them disappears from view turn the wheel towards the one you can still see. Worked for me.
We also had a student in our class that was commuting from Cana, VA. He already had a job working at the company his dad was at, but needed to take the class. He told us that on the VA road test you weren't allowed to stick your head out of the window when backing. I guess it's best to use your mirrors because there will be days when it's raining and snowing and the last thing you want to do is roll down your window. However, when the weather permits I like putting my head out on a 45-degree back. It's just something about taking a physical assessment of your progress with your own eyes.
Thanks again for your input.
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