My Company Wants Me To Drive a non-ELD Pickup Truck for 2-day delivery. How to Account?

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  1. flybynight12

    flybynight12 Medium Load Member

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    You are driving a pickup dont even bother logging anything as far as I'm concerned your off duty for 2 days nobody will ever know
     
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  3. dieselpowered

    dieselpowered Heavy Load Member

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    I always carry logbooks and you should always have them in case eld fails, just don't have them filled out unless that happens. In your case they want you to use them first instead of ELDs really not a big deal but then I wouldn't care even if I got pulled over.
     
  4. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Yeah it is a great idea until you get pulled over and the trailer is 10K plus gvw with the pickup at 12K plus GVW, then you can sit on the side of the road for a while.
     
  5. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    That's a sweet load......drive a F-150 I day away, grab a nice Holiday inn for the 1night layover, right ? Eat dinner on the boss with drinks etc then cruise back home the next day and be off by 3 pm.
     
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  6. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    I was thinking the same thing. A CMV for the purposes of logging is anything over 10,001 pounds. Also, the OP said nothing about hazmat etc. The OP simply gets a paper logbook, takes a few minutes to transfer their last 8/7 days to paper, and off they go. No need to complicate a simple thing.
     
  7. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    No, no, no, no, NO!

    For Pete’s sake folks!

    A half ton pickup is NOT a CMV (if not hazmat, or pulling a big-arse trailer). Therefore, just drive the truck. Keep track of your hours worked, driving / on duty, however you please, log book, phone app, cuneiform clay tablets, doesn’t matter.

    If and when you return to driving your CMV, EDIT YOUR ELD to add the hours worked ( on duty and driving) as recorded on your clay tablets, and off you go, all legal.

    Again there is no need for a record of duty while putting around in a non-CMV, but you do need to account those hours on your record of duty when you get back to Driving a CMV.

    As far as the suggestion to pretend it “never happened”, that might fly during a roadside inspection, but if they pull your paycheck during an audit, there will be some excitement! Been there, done that, they know the tricks better than you do.
     
  8. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    Paper log book for a half ton pickup. Lol. Drive the stupid thing and enter the hours into your ELD when you get back.
     
  9. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    If a log book would be required, running paper would be illegal as this doesn't meet any exemptions that allow it. Of course just do the run, and edit the time when you get back as a log isn't required. A log book would just complicate things if something was to happen.
    Follow the regs by not dealing with logs until required, which is not until you drive a cmv over 10,000 lbs again.
     
  10. Crude Truckin'

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    Getting paid to drive a half ton pickup? Sounds like a blank check to run my nuts off. Log book? We ain't hauling logs.
     
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  11. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    I totally agree in the absence of anything that makes that vehicle a CMV. Just drive the thing.
     
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  12. Redtwin

    Redtwin Road Train Member

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    He hasn't mentioned how he will be paid for the pickup run. If there is no need to enter on duty hours to be paid,then no way am I burning up valuable on duty time.

    Sounds like the boss isn't a stickler for the rules so I doubt he would force driver to log on duty to be paid.
     
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