My Prime student-to-lease experience

Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by Ex Primus, Jul 8, 2019.

  1. Ex Primus

    Ex Primus Bobtail Member

    Jul 8, 2019
    Just wanted to drop in and make my first post about Prime. I'll try to keep it short:
    • Training program doesn't train students very well. Most seemed to fail at SLC.
    • Trainer 1 was a nutcase, and 2 didn't teach me much.
    • Without some community college CDL classes I KNOW I would have failed.
    • Dead batteries on my company truck, so I tried to nope out.

    Somebody convinced me to go lease instead:
    • Expenses ~ $3500 a week for that truck (New model, 1st owner, didn't trust them b/c dead batteries on the other), take home pay/before taxes usually about $1700.
    • Got a bad scar on my eyebrow from crank handle hitting me. Had to get 8 stitches, and asked, "...Can you still deliver the load?"
    • High lease payments push you into working a lot more, so you'll burn out and fail on time delivery unless you set aside money, and when you do it's again like $3000 you gotta burn.
    • After expenses, taxes, etc. it's basically company pay...

    So I screwed up on time delivery a few times. I got burned out and chewed out a lot.

    Here's my final load:
    • 1400 miles in about 2.5 days,
    • 20 minutes late to delivery. I sat for 3 hours...
    • Dispatcher, "You were late to this last drop. I'm not comfortable with you pulling our freight anymore."
    • Dispatcher, "Two days ago you did an 11 hour break instead of a 10. If you did 10, you could have made it."
    • That was after driving 65 in the backwoods of Ohio for ~100 miles.

    Those words left his mouth. He sounded as stupid as that does, and he knew it.

    I'm starting to see why people choose to go Owner Operator.

    Oh! I forgot. CRST driver hit me and they smacked me across the face with a $1000 deductible, AND wiped out my ENTIRE emergency fund of $3900 on the truck for "repairs." We're talking 45 minutes to change an air filter kinda stuff...


    Just wanted to add something. That dispatcher would make additional rules on top of Primes.
    • Prime: "Lease operators can take time off whenever."
    • Dispatcher: "Yeah, I need 2 weeks notice for time off. Also we avoid 34 hour restarts like the plague."
    • Their trailers have sensors. They go off from too much movement, but not once did a sensor going off affect my load. Every single time it affected my reputation though. Those things are hair triggered. Like dropping 5 MPH in less than 500 feet sets them off.
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2019
  2. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

    Apr 26, 2013
    Read the contract, u were the one that bent over for them when they sold it to u . lease purchase u basically just telling them where to stick it and how hard u want it. Dont let dispatchers push u around. If some nimwit call me and tell me if i take a 11 hour break instead of 10 i could make it. Hes gonna be getting about 30 phone calls at 2am when his 10 hour break is done. I dont understand why guys complain about getting pushed around but dont do nothing about it. U got to earn respect out here and taking it up the ### from a low life dispatcher is no way to earn respect. Put them mfers in their place especially when ur the one payin the truck payments. That dispatcher is not ur boss he is ur co worker , but u pay him he doesnt pay u. He wouldnt have a job without u . what are your plans now?


    Dec 15, 2014
    Charlotte, NC
    Should have came here first we would have tried to talk you out of it
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  4. Ex Primus

    Ex Primus Bobtail Member

    Jul 8, 2019

    Well I found a dedicated route for MVT. 2,700 - 3,200 miles a week. 5-6 days on, then a 34, governed at 68. I spent too long on the road with Prime. I'll be in with this orientation during later in the week.

    Hope I'm not too rusty from the time off I've been enjoying.

    Edit: Forgot it's at 45 CPM. I know it's bad, but it's additional experience and keeps the lights on for awhile longer while I figure out what else to do.

    Yeah. When I hopped on with Prime I didn't have a dime to my name, so I got used to settling. The chick they had at the desk was cute, but pretty good at standing up to people.
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2019
  5. Fireeater58

    Fireeater58 Bobtail Member

    Feb 26, 2017
    Leasing from a company is nothing but indentured servitude. The company owns you and the truck. You are doing nothing but paying them to drive their truck.
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  6. mud23609

    mud23609 Medium Load Member

    Mar 9, 2015
    So you leased a 160k dollar truck, started a business and took on all risks and obligations of said business all because the truck they were going to issue you as a company driver had dead batteries? Which the would have fixed at no cost to you btw.

    The service failures are on you. Trip planning and time management are skills that truck drivers must have.

    Im not saying prime is the best company out there or that leasing is a good idea (pro tip: it’s not) but I would venture to say a good bit of your bad experience at prime comes directly from your decisions and actions.
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  7. Frank Speak

    Frank Speak Road Train Member

    May 3, 2016
    Hot Springs, AR
    Another testimonial of one these fine fleece purchase deals.
  8. Hotplate

    Hotplate Light Load Member

    Sep 20, 2015
    That's why these lease-purchase deals are aimed squarely at students, those with bad credit, no money down, etc:

    #1 Nobody with any business sense would enter into an arrangement like that.
    #2 They have an undercapitalized driver who they can run like a sled dog and browbeat into doing them "favors" and never going home because he's in constant fear of covering that $3500/week payment.

    There is NO RISK to Prime. If you fail, they'll just repo the truck and re-lease it to the next student/sucker. Meanwhile, your credit goes from bad to worse and you've drained what little capital you managed to scrape together. No labor board to protect you from onerous/shady charges, fees etc: see you in court !!

    Can you make money on these deals? Maybe, if everything goes right. But you're constantly taking on students and living out of that truck. And you're taking on WAY too much business risk for that potential reward.
  9. GlobalFM001

    GlobalFM001 Light Load Member

    Mar 9, 2019
    3500 per week!?!?
    Wtf kinda lease is that
    And I thought LMT 2700 per MONTH was a bit high for me.
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  10. diesel guy454

    diesel guy454 Light Load Member

    Oct 18, 2011
    salina ks
    Prime is one of the biggest bottom feeders in the industry. They have been pulling their lease purchase scam on rookies for years.
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