Not going too well

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by 1278PA, Dec 6, 2017.

  1. 1278PA

    1278PA Road Train Member

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    I found good videos on yt and got some good ideas from them too. Like how to know how much angle you need by looking at when your rear drive axle outer tire lines up with the center of the landing gear. I use that for my offsets and it seems to work well.

    Also for the 90s we were taught to do it in two 45 degree angles instead of one 90 almost jack knifing the trailer. Two 45s equal a 90 and it makes it like a nice sweep around into the spot. Start out hard right or close to it get that initial bend then straighten the steer tires to push on the king pin to get the box pretty close to square in the hole then chase it with a hard left all the way in finish with a pull-up if needed.
     
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  3. SinCityShooter

    SinCityShooter Light Load Member

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    Still can't find it but here's a couple good ones


     
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  4. tommymonza

    tommymonza Road Train Member

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    Oh big pile of Stinking BS.

    If you think that yelling or berating a person is going to help or progress them in their instruction or education in anything beyond an absolute emergency you are wrong my friend.

    In the past I taught sailing to very young, to young , too middle age with 100% success after instructors before had failed with them.

    Simplifying the instruction, don't confuse them with jargon, break it down to simple steps that are demonstrated to them so they can visualize the step or maunuver is a huge help.

    Heck I could teach anyone to do virtually anything.

    The problem out there is most of these trainers have no experience in teaching nor education in teaching.

    You can be the 1st place Winner of the Ohio truck rodeo and the hero of the lunch counter with a million miles. But if you lack the patience and ability to work with your students you are depriving them of a proper education.
     
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  5. Dye Guardian

    Dye Guardian Road Train Member

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    What the #### do you mean if you can't, you can't? If it can be done, you can do it. Give 'er!
     
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  6. Osiris

    Osiris Light Load Member

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    Tips are like buttholes I know lol but I had a salty old dog tell me in school to stop trying to drive the trailer and focus on the tandems.

    At some point it all will click. It's different for everybody because people learn different ways. Don't beat yourself up too much.

    You're not at AAA by any chance?
     
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  7. danny23tx

    danny23tx Road Train Member

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    Get the setup perfected and the rest falls in place .
     
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  8. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    I don't know where the explosion of problems came from one of the recent posters, but noise like that can be disregarded.

    You have all sorts of people in life across the board, some can teach. Many cannot, or should they be listened to.

    As far as I am concerned. You can either learn by doing or you can fail yourself being upset over emotional unnecessary things. You learn by doing. And fortunately for even the most stubborn of students, trucks are relatively... benign in simple physics as they are being forced back as a 53 foot peg into a hole...

    As far as this whole intent of trying to assist and then getting potshots from others who prefer to take shots at me rather than helping the OP, there is always the ignore button.

    Im finished here. There are thousands of other posts from myself regarding backing a semi. But those are just words paid for in actual doing uncountable number of times in my life with a semi. If I can do it, anyone can, even a monkey.
     
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  9. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    I have a ton of backing videos but this one seems popular with the comments, most everyone says it was a very helpful video even the non trucking crowd got some good out of if to help make their American Truck Simulator game better.

     
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  10. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Regarding the common "90 degree back": The most common setup mistake I see is they are driving down the row typically too far from, or sometimes too close to the target row front bumpers. Should be starting to initiate the setup by driving and orienting the truck down the target row with perhaps about 10 feet between truck bumpers in the target row and side of your trailer. Then start your "angling procedure setup" at the correct point and end up with the trailer at about 30-45 degrees offset of the target slot, and your truck more or less headed straight down the row [hopefully with at least 15 feet of space still from your passenger side to the opposing row trucks, trailers, or curb], then begin your back.

    Setups that are began too far from the row leave little navigation room on the passenger side. Starting too close to the row just adds a new level of complexity to the setup and back, depending on trailer tandems position and how wide (or narrow) the hole is.

    Again, I chose to add more confusion to the subject by adding yet another method of explanation. Sorry.
     
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  11. Voyager1968

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    With the advent of GoPro's on drones, I could see this working well. Give the overhead view, as well as ground and in cab segments. I'll bet a lot more students would be able to grasp the concept quicker.

    Hell, when I was starting out, I used one of my old Hess Trucks as an aid. I put it down on the floor and hand backed it between a couple of books placed to simulate a space at a dock. It helped me to see and understand that the drive wheels were what was steering the trailer, and not the steer tires.

    After that, backing was MUCH easier...
     
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