Oh what fun! Elogs

This does not exist.

Relevant part of this section to the nonexistent extended 14-Hour Rule:

There is no 16-Hour provision for OTR, Lower 48, Property-carrying CMV drivers.

The 16-Hour provision [§395.1(o)] only applies to local drivers who return to the same terminal after every duty shift.

If Prime's log department allowed you to move your truck past your 14, you, and they, are in violation.

 

I was thinking that too, adverse conditions allow going 2 additional hours but not past 14.

 

Do ya suppose that two semi's and a half a dozen cars tangled in a twisted smoking mess - accompanied by a couple of fire trucks, a couple of fire rescue types, about half a dozen ambulences, a flight for life helicopter, and about two dozen cops of assorted flavors parked in the middle of the interstate might qualify?

Oh yeah... the cops were really unhappy with the couple of dozen four-wheelers and a Swift truck who thought that that meant they could roll up the shoulder.

 

Injun isn't saying the accident doesn't qualify as an "adverse driving condition", she's simply pointing out that regardless of the condition, you may not drive more than 13 hours or past the 14th hour when using that exemption.

 

And I didn't...

 

IP. Look at the bolded portion of your statement that I quoted. You will see where I got the information. Just because I show where a particular statement may be misinterpretted does not mean you need to come out on the defensive. It is not an attack on you personally, your intelligence or Prime per se. Merely a clarification so our new people do not get confused. That's why I used FMCSR's words, not my own.

 

It's pretty simple for me. I don't understand the instructions on the QC. I hate the elogs hate hate hate. I'm going to an elog class as soon as we get home. I think they need to put me in the remedial one.

 

By the way...the bracketed portions of the FMCSRs I quoted are my own add-ins...for more clarification. I understand a traffic wreck is an unforseen event. That's why I put those words in there. I was not disputing that at all.

Regarding the Swiftie on the shoulder? He was a putz. But not relevant to the discussion.

 

You may not have, but your post implies it is permissible.

 

It is, and quite legal too... as long as you don't drive beyond 13 hours, or 16 hours since going on duty.

From the definitions of 395.2 on page 586 of the Green Book (...that's so you can look it up)

"Adverse driving conditions means snow, sleet, fog, other adverse weather conditions, a highway covered with snow or ice, or unusual road and traffic conditions..."

If you are stuck in jammed traffic due to a fatal accident on a highway that is shutdown by the authorities, it is quite possible to go beyond the 14th hour. That is an unforseen and unusual circumstance.

The correct way to deal with it (unlike many drivers who will falsify their logs to make it appear they didn't drive beyond 11/14) is to log it like it happened, annotate the circumstance and either continue to their destination if possible or go to the nearest "safe haven."

Since I'm on elogs, that included a call to the log department the next morning to ensure that there was an annotation in the file explaning the circumstance.