Oil Analysis result questions. Share your opinion.

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  1. crucar1800

    crucar1800 Light Load Member

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    Recently an oil analysis was performed on a DD13 engine mileage 430,000 miles. Truck is a 2015 cascadia. The unit was purchased used with 402,000 miles and it seems to have been part of a JBHunt fleet. Also, the truck has been getting oil changes every 10,000 miles. Rotella T4 15-40. No idling overnight. Only the necessary during the day with an occasional regen to maintain DPF system clean. Further, The truck runs hard at about 550 to 640 miles per day when under dispatch at speeds of 69 miles per hour reaching 1500 rpm.

    Please take a look at the results, attached images, and if you have any thought please share. Thank you!
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  3. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Don't see any reason for concern myself - fairly good looking sample. Fuel dilution is minimal - 86 PPM Iron is little concern.

    I'd resample at 12,500 - 15,000 and continue.

    Or change out and go on. Is your concern engine condition?
     
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  4. mhyn

    mhyn Road Train Member

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    I would suggest to do ISB test. little overspraying injector can cause little bit more wear in cylinder.
     
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  5. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    What is an ISB test - and what indication does the sample give you to suggest that?

    None of the wear metals indicate an issue, to me anyhow.
     
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    Reason for edit: Noted wear metals. Minimal.
  6. crucar1800

    crucar1800 Light Load Member

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    Thanks Blair. Yes. Iron is a concern along with the overall engine condition. Pistons.. cylinder sleeve. Etc.
    Average load weight is 38k max.

    Would you recommend Lucas? I looked into nmf and hot shot secret friction reducer. I am somewhat skeptical as for now.
     
  7. uncleal13

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    Here is my DD16, 450,000 kms (275,000 miles) same hours as yours. I haul grain, so lots of idling in line ups.
    Three samples ago, all of a sudden my iron jumped, copper and aluminum too. In my case the clues were the potassium jumped as well. They use potassium chloride on the roads in the winter instead of sodium chloride as we have a lot of potash mines around here, they get the stuff cheap.
    Freightliner did injectors cup seals and the overhead just before that sample. So I thought it was just junk from their work. Two samples back the numbers were still up. I later found a loose clamp on the intake boot on the turbo. After that, the last sample showed the numbers going back down.
    You only show the wear metals, so @mhyn is probably on the right track. Over fueling can cause cyclinder wear, you are seeing the iron from the cylinder and aluminium from the piston. EB63208E-F26A-4A7D-BCC0-6D8BBAC7D3A2.png
     
  8. mhyn

    mhyn Road Train Member

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    @uncleal13 thank you for sharing your oil test result !
     
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  9. mhyn

    mhyn Road Train Member

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    isb is idle speed balance test. it will show injectors performance. leaking, overspraying and underspraying injectors..
     
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  10. mhyn

    mhyn Road Train Member

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    ISB TEST
     

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  11. blairandgretchen

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    Fair enough. I see the plan. Kinda handy - like a cylinder cut-out test but at idle?

    I would assume this doesn't apply to old '95 12.7 like mine?
     
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