OK to leave trailer brake applied without a trailer?

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  1. mathematrucker

    mathematrucker Medium Load Member

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    When the job is pretty good overall and there are easy workarounds to the inevitable hurdles and challenges they throw at you, looking for a different job isn't high on my list of solutions. With that said, if the right stopper presents itself, I'm gone. For example, if the company decides to install driver-facing cameras, or if some night dispatch clown forces me out of a truck in the middle of the night so it can be re-assigned to a new hire. (The latter actually happened to me a couple years ago. I like to name the screwed-up company when I mention it, too: Eagle Express Lines.)
     
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  3. mathematrucker

    mathematrucker Medium Load Member

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    I have one of those air-up hoses. I understand that it would serve the same purpose as a plugged glad hand, providing resistance so the compressor doesn't keep churning away, but I don't understand what you mean by "once you unplug the red air line." Why would I unplug it? Seems like the red air line needs to stay hooked to the air-up hose (or plugged glad hand) the whole time the engine is running and the trailer brake is released.

    I like your suggestion to also crank down the landing gear when a trailer is hooked.
     
  4. dptrucker

    dptrucker Road Train Member

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    I would think truck would lose more air than the compressor gives out.
    causing truck to pop the brakes
     
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  5. mathematrucker

    mathematrucker Medium Load Member

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    Didn't think of that. Good point. The PSI must gradually keep dropping until it's so low the brake pops out. I've never tested it to see how long it takes, but I bet it's no more than about two minutes or so.
     
  6. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    I meant once you unhook the red air line from the trailer to hook it to your air up line, the brakes will be set.
     
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  7. mathematrucker

    mathematrucker Medium Load Member

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    Tried it just now. Only took a little over a minute. So the question in my original post should have been "how do you plug the red air line when it's not hooked to a trailer" (but I wouldn't have asked that question, because I would have come up with an answer on my own, if only I'd focused on it instead). The question about compressors was still a legitimate one to ask in general.
     
  8. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Lol good luck getting that button to stay pushed in with nothing sealing off the gladhand.
     
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  9. mathematrucker

    mathematrucker Medium Load Member

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    Oh I see what you're saying. Now that you mention it, it occurs to me that instead of going out and getting super heavy duty wheel chocks, wish I'd thought of simply unhooking the red air line and plugging it somehow---with an air-up line or a plugged glad hand, as we've discussed---as that's much simpler than messing around with chocks. When you unhook that red hose, that trailer isn't going anywhere! And since your tractor is hooked to it, it isn't either! Wow, too easy!

    Glad I asked my question. I'm thoroughly convinced now that the very best way to achieve my goal is to get a plugged glad hand to attach to the unhooked red air hose (glad hand seems more solid than an air-up hose). I see no reason to bother with chocks or cranking down the landing gear. Again, that whole rig is going nowhere with the red air hose unhooked from the trailer!

    The bobtail scenario calls for wheel chocks though, so they'll come in handy if I ever happen to be parked bobtail overnight in the desert heat.
     
  10. aaronpeterbilt3787

    aaronpeterbilt3787 Medium Load Member

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    Well, that’s 10 mins of my life I’ll never get back.
     
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  11. spsauerland

    spsauerland Road Train Member

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    How about putting toggle switch inline with parking brake switch, then brakes are set and don't have to get out of cab. With wiring diagram shouldn't be to hard to figure out.
     
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