Option for team driving training instead of academy for new drivers with permit?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by CK73, Mar 1, 2018.

  1. CK73

    CK73 Medium Load Member

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    Hello folks,

    Just wondering if this is a thing.. Why not do real hands on training with a veteran day one team driving instead of 3-4 weeks at some academy for no pay?

    I have the learner's permit and the DOT physical passed. The permit was easy enough, I did it all myself. Do I need to go to a "School", pay for it, and not make any wages for a month, or would it be legitimate to team up with an experienced O/O or L/O in Dallas/Fort Worth for at least a few hundred hours, get paid from day 1, and go that route vs. an academy?

    Is this a thing, or am I dreaming, it literally just occurred to me as a possibility.

    Otherwise, I start academy in less than 3 weeks. One month until I get a small paycheck and 10 hour training days 6 days a week for three weeks.. Seems excessive for a 40+ year old brain.

    Then, guess what.. TEAM DRIVING with a trainer for 4-6 weeks anyway, after living in a hotel with another dude for 3 weeks. Why not cut right to the chase, no hand holding needed here LOL. If I'm gonna be shacked up in tight quarters anyway may as well earn from day one, right?
     
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  3. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    This very same question was asked yesterday by someone else. I tagged you on that thead.
     
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  4. RoadRooster

    RoadRooster Road Train Member

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    The academy teaches you enough to pass the test... trainer's teach you how to survive and hopefully not commit too much personal injury.

    Let's take that a step further...if you drive team with your trainer, you don't learn... because one of you is always asleep.

    Pick a company that doesn't dispatch you and your trainer as a team...
     
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  5. aussiejosh

    aussiejosh Road Train Member

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    Actually have thought of that one myself so great minds do think alike huh? Why don't some folks offer to train on the job and then pay for there lessons by their driving time and assisting the main driver. That's what the industry is lacking big time is professional drivers willing to train up and coming drivers the rights and wrongs on the road.
     
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  6. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    The reason it's almost impossible to find an 0/0 willing to do that anymore is because of Elogs and insurance. A trainee posted this week an 0/0 was training him, but had to stop because his insurance company found out about it. The old days are over.
     
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  7. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Dallas/Ft.Worth is a great area for cdl schools; either private schools or trucking company schools.
    You posted you're scheduled for an academy; which one?
    Roehl Transport pays their students $500.00 a week to attend their academy. This isn't a pay advance either, that you have to pay back. It's a salary that you keep, because you're an employee from day one. Maybe they still have their school in Grand Prairie,TX.
    There's others to consider for your area:
    FFE (Frozen Food Express)
    Western Dairy Transport - www.wdtmilk.com
    Millis Transfer
    also some others
     
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  8. Rooster1291979

    Rooster1291979 Road Train Member

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    3 weeks is ridiculous. FFE was 10 days classroom. If you had your permit they cut 2 days off that. Call them.
     
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  9. ZX14DRAGRACER

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    I just finished CDL school and passed Dmv test on February 15th ,I start with Knight Transportation Monday morning. I’ll be with a trainer for 4 weeks, from I understand I’ll be doing all the driving while the trainer trains. He doesn’t crawl into sleeper berth while the trainer is driving.
     
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  10. 2Girls_1Truck

    2Girls_1Truck Medium Load Member

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    Is this still legal in all states? I know megas have been pushing for a CDL school standard and trying to make it mandatory. I had a spirited debate on this issue at a national event in 2016 with a safety manager. I vehemently disagree that a trucking license should be treated as a red-seal trade and cost $15,000 over 2 years.

    I trained my co-driver (wife) when she got her permit. At that time, 5 years ago, it was just a class 5 license (cars, under 4500kg) with an airbrakes endorsement. We spent 9 months navigating the treachery of a Canadian winter learning shifting, backing, pretrips, paperwork, plowing snow with an steel bumper, blowouts, air leaks, arseholes on the loading dock, sweet talking your dispatcher, etc.

    I worked for a very small (15-20 truck) mostly regional operation, Canada only, and mainly dedicated routes hauling mail to the same 8 post offices across eastern Canada. With the boss’s blessing, of course, and the understanding that if she ripped anything up - I was on the hook. She didn’t, and in the snow she puts just about every driver stateside to shame.

    We’ve since moved on to greener ($$$) pastures, and she’s wowed every recruiter on the roadtest and pretrip, especially since they know she didn’t churn out of a CDL mill (like me).
     
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  11. sarapunk

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    This supposed to be like that but not with Knight! They should be reported to the government safety department! I been driving like a team since a day 4th !
     
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