OPTIONS BETWEEN MARTIN-BROWER, ABF, HOLLAND?

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  1. road_runner

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    So back to the OPs question. Holland has home daily city drivers and OTR drivers. OTR makes about $70k a year with full benefits. City makes about $56k a year or so plus the same benefits.

    OTR has some home daily turns and a bunch more runs where you are out a few nights or most of the week. Some of those drivers carry some pretty large carry-on baggage, so I assume they are gone longer than not.

    Everything is by seniority and you will either get the longest runs or the shortest ones. The same goes for city. Expect tedious stops like military bases/construction sites/high security entry stops. I was advised that if you have a TWIC, keep that s### to yourself unless you want to get stuck with those runs.

    Either way, the job is ok. Lots of dock work and everyone pisses and moans if you can't keep up.
     
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    My three years at Reddaway as line were not nearly as bad. We got our time off when we needed it. But I hear ya. You pretty much won't have a life of you work over nights. No friends, no hobbies, get a DVR if you want to keep up.with your favorite tv shows. Missed birthdays and holidays. You lose track of what day or week it is everything just feels like a blur of sleeping and counting delineators and mile markers.

    It's why I got out, took a giant paycut and moved to city.
     
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    I am okay with night shift, I would like to be home daily but could do a night or 2 out if needed. I see mentioned that it involves working the dock some and people don't like it ? Is it heavy lifting or what ? I can drive a fork lift and have loaded a lot of trucks. Didn't seem that bad but not sure what you all did.

    I think I read that you no longer work there , if so is it because of the work hours, night shift etc...

    And I want to thank you for your time and info :)
     
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    The amount of dock work depends on bid. Usually it involves stopping somewhere and pulling something off the trailer that is destined for that stop, and then loading something back on the trailer destined for the next stop. It's mostly palletized so you'll get to use a forklift for certain. There might be something awkward in the trailer that you need to drag off by hand (like a mattress or so) but those arent common.

    Some people try to bid their way out of dock work and instead just want a bunch of miles with only one destination terminal. They park their truck and trailer there and either head back with a full load or lay over and run the route in reverse. Right now our barn has a bunch of routes going to Charlotte then back. 200 miles of total driving but you are on the dock for 6 hours or more. Seniority is everything.

    If you don't mind nights, you will do well. I got tired of it after three years. I'd go back to it if I had to, but right now I have the choice to work days. Feel free to ask away. I am very open about how this field works and how it treats its drivers
     
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  5. dennisroc

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    So I assume you are still working there ?
    Do you know what the pay is for training and then when I am ready to drive will it go up.

    You said 200 miles total going to Charlotte and back ?
    Where are you located ?
    I would want to work in Indianapolis.
    Do you know what trucks and transmissions they have ?
    Do they have doubles ?
    Sleepers or day abs ?
     
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    So here is how it works:

    You will have to attend orientation for about a week. Class starts Monday at noon and ends Fridays at noon. Fortunately for you, your training will take place in Indianapolis. If you don't live there, they will pay for your transportation to the terminal, board you in a hotel, and they provide you four lunches. If you already live there, more power to you. You will receive a total of 35 hours of pay on the hourly rate. Ours is $20/hour but yours might be more based on area. Once you complete orientation, you will spend 1-3 weeks with a driver mentor. He will evaluate your driving and teach you how to do all the paperwork and how to run the computer. Once he thinks you are good to go, you solo.

    The 200 mile turn I mentioned is unique to our terminal in SC. You being in Indy puts you in the middle of our Network. You might get a turn run or do a layover. Your barn is big enough to keep you busy.

    We do not pull doubles or run sleepers. When you lay over somewhere, they will put you in a hotel with your own room.
     
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    I live 1 hour and and 13 minutes north of the terminal and mostly good highway and interstate in Kokomo, Indiana.
    Do they ever let you take the truck home ?

    That would suck to be north of my place and then take it back to terminal 1 hour and turn around and head back 1 hour
     
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    No, you can't take the trucks home. The trucks are snatched up by the city drivers the moment they are done being used. As a matter of fact, the reason why I've been on TTR all day is because they ran out of trucks and I did not have a run today. I get a guaranteed 8 hours of pay, so I've been hanging out on the dock and break room all day.
     
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    Kokomo is a horrible place to live as an LTL driver, although I'd love to live near that dirt track in your backyard. My company, for instance, has terminals in Indy (Greenwood, really), Ft. Wayne (Markle), and South Bend, but the commute to any of those and back will kill you when you work a long day/night. If you get an LTL job, you might want to consider relocating closer to the terminal. None of them will let you take a truck home.
     
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    Carter Express is in Anderson,INDIANA and I live on the South end of Kokomo so it is like 1 hour away. So that would add 2 hours to my drive each day. But I hear they get home on weekends and some through the week.
    No touch freight just out and back to surrounding states an Laredo trips. They haul car parts.

    Moving is out of the question.
    We have lived in South Korea for 14 years and bought a house on a grass strip and built a airplane hangar.
    I am a airplane owner, mechanic, inspector and pilot.
    I can work on planes if I want but been doing that for 24 years and just looking to drive a truck for something different and supplement my retirement.

    That’s why if I find something that works for me I will go ahead and get my CDL but I’m not looking to go OTR.
    We are moving back to the states in December and I was just checking for something that would work.
     
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