Our feelings about E-logs now that it is in effect

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by markcorb, Apr 12, 2023.

  1. markcorb

    markcorb Bobtail Member

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    I am the wife of a truck driver, and my husband who has been driving for over forty years and even owned his own Truck, knows all well what it is like out there for truck drivers he comes from a family of truck drivers, and we have a son and son-in-law that are Truckers, not my career choice for them but now they realize how hard the job it can be. I would like to know who makes the rules for our Truck drivers because it sounds like they have no idea what our Truckers go through on the road and what they deal with day to day there is a shortage because of all the changes and rules. Now there is a new change with the log books, ever since the e-logs have come into effect my husband and son have had no job because both my husband and son have a learning disability my son-in-law says for him it is difficult to manage, so my guys just don’t get the e-log program, “this is our thoughts on the E-logs.”A lot of truck drivers who have a learning disability, or who are up in age, or have no idea how to use a computer and have never even turned on one, most of the guys are really getting frustrated already with learning how to do all the steps it takes to get into the program, most of these men have little education for the reason of having to work instead of going to school. Or even with a learning disability. We hear that the E-logs are not even working out for the Truckers in the USA, and now Canada is having the same problem. But no one seems to be saying anything but me and I need help with this problem. What happens when someone gets how many violations and can't understand how or why the e-log gives them one, that's a lot of money all at once to try and pay. The federal law which protects people from discrimination includes the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the Canadian Human Rights Act. This is important for Truckers' rights to an exemption from the e-logs. Guys that have tried learning the program just can’t get it, it is not their fault there are still a lot of people that need even help with their written tests when it comes time to do them, why does it have to change? Accidents happen no matter what system they use, blaming truck drivers is not fair, everything is so fast pace that no wonder traffic is so bad and things happen.
     
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  3. MacLean

    MacLean Road Train Member

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    Not that I’d ever advocate for e-Logs but what learning disability does your family have that that can’t let an electronic device monitor their trip but they’re able to do it by hand on paper? Are you in Ontario?
     
  4. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    After 40 years both he and you should understand the answer to your question.

    AI bot much?
     
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  5. Kshaw0960

    Kshaw0960 Road Train Member

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    I don’t want to get banned for this but honestly if you can’t figure out an elog after training you probably shouldn’t be driving a truck. If you don’t know how to use an elog just learn and take the time to understand it. It’s part of the job.
     
  6. Phoenix Heavy Haul

    Phoenix Heavy Haul Medium Load Member

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    If they can work a cell phone they can work elogs. If they can’t work a cell phone probably best not to be on the road.
     
  7. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    They figured out how to do a paper log. The elog is the same thing. Just computerized. The old driver excuse is played out. The only disability I see when it comes to elogs is a refusal to learn and a refusal to change. There are lots of drivers with a learning disability, probably all of them lol. There are also lots of drivers that are 60 years old and up that function just fine with the elog.
     
  8. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    Also, companies will walk them through it if they need/want the help. I'm sorry, I can't be sympathetic to this one.
     
  9. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    I have No trouble understanding/ operating e-logs
    But you’ll NEVER see on in my truck
     
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  10. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    I don't really care for the elog either. However it is not rocket science.

    Good thing the rule makers didn't make a notice of when the elog will become law, allow a decent amount of time for the industry to adopt the technology, (maybe 2 years say), after that offer another period of time where drivers can be inspected on either system and educated as well as the kinks work out in the trucking system(6 months sound fair?), before a hard enforcement date comes into effect. Not to mention all the court challenges and hearings and legal jambalaya.

    I bet he learn real quick when the 30 minute break got changed to, "after 8 hours of driving and also no longer required to be marked as off duty rather any combination of line 1,2 or 4 would be acceptable.

    I do appreciate his 40+ years, but to make the argument this was a surprise and he's now at some kind of disadvantage? Sorry, I can't get behind that argument.
     
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    Judge Road Train Member

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