Owner ops who are also farmers

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Gunner75, Apr 4, 2015.

  1. Gunner75

    Gunner75 Road Train Member

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    My father in law has been a diesel mechanic for the past 20+ years for his company, and is set to retire here in less than a month. Later this year he is contemplating buying a truck and leasing it on with a good flatbed carrier such as Mercer and getting a driver in the seat to help in keeping a steady stream of income coming in. He also has been a crop farmer for the past 40+ years, and is wanting to use the truck during harvest to maximize his harvest times by making fewer trips. He usually uses hopper wagons over truck hauling as he only goes 5 miles round trip, but he has been offered better rates (25% higher) if hes willing to go to another elevator but that elevator is 20miles 1 one way. So making multiple hopper wagon trips is out of the question due to time taking away from the field. Im sure you know where this is going. Obviously the maintenance would be handled by him as he has the facilities, and the skills. Driving would be left either up to me for the crop moves, and im not sure about the freight runs with the lease company.

    If he was to buy a truck and lease it to a carrier, would he be able to use that same truck for crop moves, if he covered the company name and dot numbers, and change the tags to his farm takes?
     
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  3. Arkansas

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    As long as he's not running under there tags or authority he can do what he wants.
     
  4. wore out

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    Would it be easier to buy or lease a hopper to go with it and put it on with broker until harvest. We gave up farming years ago no irrigation. But there are several in my area that have really nice trucks and hoppers. Keep the drivers year around but just run broker freight till harvest. It is a way for the trucks to pay for themselves and not sit in the shed all year. I'm thinking swapping the license and registration on the truck will be more headache to the carrier he will lease to then they want
     
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  5. Judge

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    We do this now, hopper freight is slow, Have 5 brokers that we run for, that are alright I guess, they pay, may not be what it is worth, like going to a lovely chicken feed mill and sitting for 4-8+ hours for free.
    But we also haul fertilizers such as potash, dap, ammonia sulfate, ammonium nitrate, and some new stuff poly-sulfate and a ton of other fertilizers, which basically pay general freight prices, while hauling grain price is cut to the bone. Used to corn paid by the hundred weight, beans, corn, milo, etc paid by the bushel, now they're moving about everything into the hundred weight.
    Hauled some beans the other day for $0.46/hundred but it only went 93 miles and it was in and out but it got me back to a good load that took me to the house and paid the truck 550$ and went the 125 miles and unloaded in the city I live. It's all a gamble now.
     
  6. rank

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    If you're the driver for both the freight and the grain and if the elevators are only 5-20 miles away, who's going to know?
     
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    Yes hopper freight is slow, every thing is slow is the thing. Grain prices fell and every farmer that has storage isn't selling unless he has to to pay his crop loan. Thing is they are fixing to plant another and something is gonna have to be done with it one way or another cause every body don't have the finances to build another set if bins. My way of thinking it makes sense for a farmer to have a hopper cause he can use it. Dealing with brokers are a pain in the neck even leased to a big carrier he has that trouble. I'm sure it will turn around sooner or later, or we all gonna have to start living a lot cheaper lol
     
  8. Cummins_444

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    An accident or inspection report will be a give away.
     
  9. rank

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    Yep. No doubt.
     
  10. Gunner75

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    The thought is hauling grain from his farm to the elevator during harvest, then being leased on with a decent flatbed carrier like mercer the rest of the year
     
  11. Ridgeline

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    It all depends on the contract he has with Mercer and what they would need to use the truck to haul a personal trailer. It would be wise to discuss this with Mercer right at the start so there is no misunderstandings.
     
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