Passenger Rule Violation

Just put his arse in SBerth, Tell him he cant come out until he is a real boy!

 

The passenger rule?

Why was It incorrect for you to be off duty while he/she was driving?

Who gave you a violation?

A team driver can log up to 2 hours off duty in the passenger seat immediately before or after a tleast 8 hours in the sleeper berth.
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• All other time in or on a commercial motor vehicle other than: (i) Time spent resting in or on a parked vehicle, except as otherwise provided in Section 397.5 of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations; (ii) Time spent resting in a sleeper berth; (iii) Up to 2 hours riding in the passenger seat of a property-carrying vehicle moving on the highway immediately before or after a period of at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth;

 

Didn't know this rule! Good to know!

 

What rule?

 

Passenger violation rules lol. Never worked with teams before!

 

The QC popped a "violation" because you had been off duty for.more than two hours and the codriver had logged movement. The rule states two hours before or after 8 hours in the berth. So technically if you log off duty as your codriver moves to the truck stop and then starts a 10 or 34 hour break and you don't log 8 hours in SB then you violated the letter of the regulation, not the intent. Computers aren't smart enough to.handle the contradiction so it says you're violating the passanger rule.

 

And he can't change that? Since he WASN'T driving.

 

I ran into this frequently as a trainer, when I would forget to log On Duty after my trainee took Off Duty time and got back underway. The Qualcomm would bark that I was violating the passenger rule.

It's an easy fix. Just edit your logs. Problem solved.

 

Is there a way to defeat it like if you wanted to log offduty up front after 5 hours in the sleeper, would you just be able to take a 10 hours and 1 minute break to defeat the passenger rule?