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Pre-emissions Truck Questions

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by PeteyVer, May 27, 2019.

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  1. May 27, 2019 #1
    PeteyVer

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    Hi everyone,

    I'm doing some research on pre-emissions trucks (from 1997-2007) and have a few questions I was hoping I could get clarified. I'm asking specifically on the well-maintained units that have had engine rebuilds, such as the popular Pete 379s.

    1. A lot of these trucks are quite expensive, reaching $80k or more. I know there is a market for these pre-emissions units, but is this market growing or getting smaller. After all, these trucks are getting older each year. Who, primarily, is the market for these trucks? O/Os, small fleets? Are buyers typically older and have been in the industry for some time or are a lot of newer, younger buyers also interested in these trucks? Are sellers getting what they are asking?

    2. Are pre-emissions engines more fuel-efficient than post-emissions engines? I'm hearing differing thoughts on this.

    3. How much does a recently completed engine rebuild really add to these units? I know rebuilds can cost a lot of money ($30K or more) but do they add a lot of value?

    Thanks a lot for the help, everyone.
     
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  3. May 27, 2019 #2
    blairandgretchen

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    For what reason are you asking, sir?
     
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  4. May 27, 2019 #3
    Liquidforce

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    along with pre emissions, you also have pre eld (prior to 2000) that will effect the pricing as well. A post 2000 non dpf truck is not quite as desirable in some eyes.
     
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  5. May 27, 2019 #4
    Bakerman

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    Check out Paul Priestas in Sandusky, OH. He has a good selection of pre-her-eld trucks

    He’s in the truck paper
     
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  7. May 27, 2019 #5
    Mid-May Trucker

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    Wouldn't it be easier to just get a new truck with engine warranty?
     
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  8. May 27, 2019 #6
    Pedigreed Bulldog

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    My truck lost a significant portion of its resale value the day the ELD mandate was published. Came off the line 6/00...officially a 2001. "Too new" to be ELD-exempt, and those with the desire to run an ELD are generally looking for something a little newer.

    The OP is mistaken, though. 2007 is NOT "pre-emission". While it may be pre-SCR (2010) and pre-DPF (2007), it will still have EGR (2004).
     
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  9. May 27, 2019 #7
    Pedigreed Bulldog

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    Warranty doesn't pay the truck note when the truck is down.
     
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  10. May 27, 2019 #8
    blairandgretchen

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    Me thinks ‘buy them and flog them’ post.
     
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  11. May 28, 2019 #9
    KB3MMX

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    Good point if you're struggling month to month.
    Funny how people think a truck payment is a huge deal though... Judas maybe we have found a big part of what's wrong in the industry if people think they can't afford that. Ugh.

    Also funny how old trucks never seemed to break , whew.. i must have had the wrong older ones they were broke more often than my new ones. Lol.
     
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  12. May 28, 2019 #10
    olddog_newtricks

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    No one wants a shop queen. You're not making money if the wheels aren't turning.
     
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