Prolonged low rates = time to short trucking stocks?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by double yellow, Apr 27, 2015.

  1. aussiejosh

    aussiejosh Road Train Member

    4,709
    5,409
    Aug 28, 2009
    Airlie Beach QLd
    0
    While charts are really great to look at bottom line is when your buying shares in any company is there ability to continue to make a profit one of the reasons we've seen a sell off in mining stocks is those companies have lower incomes and some are making losses so people are switching back to the more stable companies like 3M, Johnson & Johnson, Merck, they have proven records.
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

    5,946
    10,066
    Aug 28, 2011
    State of Jefferson
    0
    This was as far back as I could make sense of the data. In 1998 they counted things differently...

    BLS.jpg

    The average truck driver's real income has declined over 10% since 2000...
     
  4. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

    15,468
    25,015
    Mar 31, 2013
    sarasota, fl
    0
    But everyone outside of dc had seen their real income decline. The value of the dollar has been destroyed by our friends looking out for us in dc
     
    KB3MMX Thanks this.
  5. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

    10,818
    12,622
    Mar 14, 2010
    california norte
    0
    It's what I have been saying, they want to lengthen the trailers and increase gross weight to lower the labor cost of the driver equation. It is a shell game to the max. You have drivers running around all proud of their $75,000 pay but in reality they are making the same as 20 years ago.
     
  6. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

    15,468
    25,015
    Mar 31, 2013
    sarasota, fl
    0
    The thing is, that's not just trucking. Every career choice is seeing the same thing. Wages have not kept up with inflation. Talk to a union crane operator which is about the best paying blue collar job you can get,the buying power of their income today is no more than it was twenty years ago.
     
    Boardhauler, KB3MMX and TAfool Thank this.
  7. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

    5,946
    10,066
    Aug 28, 2011
    State of Jefferson
    0
    Spyder is right. Average real income per capita:

    20151003_085253.png
     
    TAfool Thanks this.
  8. 77fib77

    77fib77 Road Train Member

    10,374
    64,704
    Jul 7, 2010
    St Louis
    0
    We only add 142,000 jobs per the jobs report. Manufacturing was down1.7% in orders. Not good.
     
  9. KB3MMX

    KB3MMX Road Train Member

    3,069
    2,589
    Dec 29, 2014
    Orrstown, PA
    0
    Thank you.... Keep the political commentary for the politics forum please.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 4, 2015
  10. TAfool

    TAfool Medium Load Member

    631
    850
    Dec 8, 2012
    0
    @chalupa
    Nat gas hitting the 6 handle. Were you just arm chairing it or have you got skin in the game?

    Expect another 50% decline before any basing.

    TA
     
    Derailed Thanks this.
  11. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

    5,946
    10,066
    Aug 28, 2011
    State of Jefferson
    0
    So Celadon has gone from $26 to $7 since I made the original post -- and I'm now thinking about going long (I think it should trade in the $12-18 range). Does anyone know of a reason to hold off?
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.