Quit DHT no notice no job

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Kolorado, Jun 27, 2016.

  1. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Over gross & over axle both...... ????
    If it had been me, I would have taken it back to the shipper & asked to rework the load to be legal. If they don't, the load doesn't move. I call dispatch & let THEM work it out with the shipper. I don't negotiate the deals or rules. That's for the two companies to work out. Until that load is legal, I wouldn't run back & forth, to & from, the shipper. Once I weighed the load, I call the dispatcher & advise them of the situation. Take it back to the shipper & the load stays right there until its legal.

    This is just another case of "put it on the driver, let him work it out". It ain't for me to work out. Its for the two companies to work out. I don't mind going back & asking for the load to be worked out, but once they tell me no or they cant or wont or..... I call the dispatcher & let them work it out. The load wont move until its legal. I don't understand whats so hard about that. Just make the load legal, like its supposed to be & everyone is covered.
     
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  3. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    By the time he realized it was overweight, the customer was closed. So no opportunity to rework it to legal. Sit all weekend stewing or slide it back and burn enough fuel to make it legal? It was only 500 pounds over gross anyway. By the time he got to New Mexico weigh station the weight would have been legal or close enough to it.

    If he would have shown up with 1/2 tanks this whole drama would never have happened.
     
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  4. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    That's it in a nutshell. That's 700 miles to the NM PoE. I would have done it. He'd probably still be driving for DHT. I know when I was thinking about working for that company that did hazardous tanker, if the truck wasn't going over a scale, just the few loads I was involved with, half were over gross, and it was the way they did it, 95% grain haulers are over gross at any given time. Log trucks? LOL.

    I know a plant needs fertilizer to grow. I think people need BS to grow as well. I guess @scottied67 have had so much fertilizer placed on us by DM's, shippers, and receivers, that we have grown to the point where this is just not an issue. and just another day in the life.

    I know when I started as an O/O, I once put 180 gallons in my 2 x 100 tanks, cause fuel was about $0.30 gallon cheaper if I could just get to Missouri. I made it, fueled that big dude up, and thought, you just saved yourself $50.

    Even as recent as this winter, I stopped on a run, through in $20 cash at an small place that didn't even as my truck number, didn't ask anything, to make sure I made it to Gallup, NM. Put 242 gallons in my 2 x 150's, if I told you how much I saved with my fuel discount the mods wouldn't believe me anyway, and it was legal on my log, since DOT can look up comdata time.

    I'm not sure if ever had to fuel every 100 or 300 miles though. CRST was the worst for being loaded to heavy, Conway or R+L loads, but even my trainees grasped the concept of " Look, were only getting 50 gallons of fuel at a time." And typically everyone was happy because then fueled anywhere you wanted to, which for some reason was always a Petro.
     
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  5. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    Maybe I was lucky I don't know, but in all my years I never had to wait more then maybe 30 minutes to get a load fixed. However with some experience I was able to avoid having to go back most of the time because I forced shippers to remove a pallet if it was in that last 6 feet and the load was near Gross. 75% of the time I was getting loaded out at places I had been before. Places like General Mills, Mars and Hershey. Mars and Hershey was almost always preloaded. These places would almost always load me to Gross but with a few exceptions I never had to go back. The only shippers that gave me trouble was the bottled water guys. My dispatch always said to never go in with full tanks. I remember a load of water I got in north central Tennessee. It was going to Dallas. I was having to stop about every 150 miles or so to fuel because I could only take on so much fuel. The only true solution to these weight and bridge law issues is to make all non LTL shippers responsible for the overweight's.
     
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  6. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    I just can't get my head wrapped around losing 3-5 days of work over a piddly little 500 pounds. To put so much energy into the 'principle' of the thing lol. To an O/O 3-5 days of work represents $4000-$6000 depending on lane/commodity maybe even more for some. I'm not giving that away because I'm "right" and the shipper is "wrong". Suck it up buttercup is the phrase of the day. And I think it is fair to say we have pretty much turned into a nation of pansies compared to our 1940's predecessors.
     
  7. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    If this shipper tries to put 48k on a 33k truck, then yes they ARE wrong, and it is they who can "suck it up buttercup".
     
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  8. tucker

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    I really hate to agree with you, but 500 pounds ain't worth getting the load reworked.
     
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  9. pattyj

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    You should have received some kind of compensation.The sad thing is Knight could care less you quit.You're only hurting yourself.You're going to run into situations like this many times during your career and you'll in time realize your dispatcher or anyone at your company could care less if you quit.they won't try and talk you into staying if that's what you're hoping.ME,I would have tried to work a deal out with dispatch to pay for overweight ticket or maybe chanced it and ran with it.I do not have patience for shippers like the one you dealt with.
     
  10. TequilaSunrise

    TequilaSunrise Medium Load Member

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    Complicated math is par for the course. At a certain weight... We hook. Weigh. Calculate. Then fuel.

    It takes too much time to drop trailers and grab different ones. The new ones may be going in the opposite direction.

    Time is money. And we only get paid for dispatched miles. If I have to call dispatch and let them know I am running this load at 3/4 full tanks and I am fueling more, they ok it no problems. Freight needs to move for the company to make money.

    It doesn't make sense to be completely full of fuel if you are picking up heavy trailers and your tandems are fixed.
     
  11. Am_erica Cartage

    Am_erica Cartage Bobtail Member

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    The OP just wanted compensation for sitting over the weekend . Dispatch should have handled the customer and in the least threw him a couple hundred bucks detention till Monday and this wouldn't have been a thread about him quitting because of DHT, it would have been a thread a few weeks later about him quitting trucking because it's not the life for him .
     
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