Rand McNally defines PC

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  1. buzzarddriver

    buzzarddriver Road Train Member

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    I would wonder what an auditor would say to showing going off duty in New Jersey, then at a later date showing return to duty in a location a 1000 miles away. And not returning to the off duty location to move towards picking up the next load.
    I suppose this would not be one of those thing's they would look for, but it might throw up a red flag to an auditor who was really looking for something to hang a person on.
    Not saying it is wrong, but one of those thing's that could have any number of interpretations.
     
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  3. Hurst

    Hurst Registered Member

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    I'm on paper logs.

    I just wrote in the notes what I did and why. Everything else is fully documented and matter of fact,. still in court suing said mega carrier. Audit away. I did nothing illegal.

    Hurst
     
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  4. Bdog

    Bdog Road Train Member

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    This PC stuff confuses the heck out of me. Aside from the Pete I drive a lot for work in a dually pickup. Even without a trailer if I am working out of state I have to log because it is over 10k GVWR.

    I stay in a motel and drive to our jobsite. I would think this is PC as I am driving from my lodging location to work location but I have asked two different DOT guys and they tell me it is not. Some times I change my duty station to where we are working and use the local exemption but that gets tricky when we work over 12 hrs a day sometimes.
     
  5. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    I read that too. He was going home for a funeral from AZ empty and had gone through many weigh stations with no problems up to that point. The cop did not believe the driver would be returning empty back to AZ for his next load so he put the guy out of service and a huge monetary fine.

    There is nothing in the book about covering up the DOT numbers to use PC. I don't know where they got that from.
     
  6. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    You cant use PC to cross country to home.. no ifs ands or buts. Its only for running around town. Basically. The reg was posted a few times over the years. And 2 scalehouse employees even threw their two cents in on this forum. Some of us have done it. Including myself. But its illegal. If you get caught..be prepared for the punishment
     
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  7. W900AOwner

    W900AOwner Heavy Load Member

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    I keep forgetting about this "personal conveyance" exemption...even though I own the truck...if I put miles on it while unladen (i.e; to & from repair shops, tires, joy riding around with my arm hanging out the window, waving to the world with no air in the seat shouting "Hi, my name's JOE, and I got me a BIG radio...",) can I or should I record those miles as personal conveyance in my compliance records to cover my arse in the event of an audit to justify the empty/negative mileage I wonder...? That's a legitimate issue to ponder.
     
  8. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    I fill out trip sheets for IFTA reporting. Beginning miles for the trip (which are ending miles from last trip) and odometer reading when I cross the next state line. Now, in between loads I can use PC and put those miles on the trip sheet as Empty miles in that state then the rest of the miles to the state border are recorded as Loaded miles.
     
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