Randomness of randoms

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  1. jimjam38

    jimjam38 Medium Load Member

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    I know that there is some type of database that carriers go by that randomly generates drivers who have to report for a random. I get that. However, shouldn't it only be personnel in hr/safety that know who has to report and nobody else? I ask because a driver with company was telling other drivers who was coming up for random screenings, before the driver themselves was made aware. Is that even legal?
    Also, if a driver is unavailable to test, I know there is a time limit to get them in, but doesn't the employer have to make reasonable accommodations to make sure the driver can get to the testing site before the cutoff? In other words, if the testing site stops at 4pm, you can't inform the driver at 3:30pm(especially if the site is more than 30 minutes away)
     
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  3. cuzzin it

    cuzzin it Road Train Member

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    The time limit is when the driver is informed to go test. The office may know for days, and wait for driver to be where test can happen
     
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  4. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    Once with Landstar I got call asking if i still on Michigan.
    Told them I hadn’t been to michigan in months.
    They asked where i was, I told them Gary, IN.
    They made me do a random there with a high value load left in the parking lot in Gary.

    Couldn’t leave the building and it was packed with other trucks and the lead one had ‘shy bladder’ so none could leave the lot for 3 hours until he could leave the building, after giving sample, you know all truck drivers are boozers and drug addicts, right?
    You leave building you’ll be wrote up as a refusal and one place, national med test, will only allow you a couple swallows of water from, because any more water will “dilute the positive sample”
     
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  5. jimjam38

    jimjam38 Medium Load Member

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    I get them knowing and then notifying the driver. I'm talking about isn't there a cutoff time on the day because the courier has to puck it up to transport. Let's say FedEx makes their last pickup from clinic at 430pm. The clinic stops taking drivers at 400pm. If the carrier waits until the last possible day dot allows 30 minutes before the clinic stops taking drivers, and the driver is more than 30 minutes away, how is it the driver's fault?
     
  6. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    Everything is always the drivers fault, it certainly won’t be the dispatcher whom forgot to tell you in a timely manner.
     
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  7. Allow Me.

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    Mgmt knows way ahead of time who's name is going to come up. I've had bossman (small co) tell me to get it done by Friday, this was on a Tuesday !
     
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  8. prostartom

    prostartom Light Load Member

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    We receive our random draw list and then have almost 3 months to get the drivers in for a test. That gives us plenty of time to schedule them to be in an area that is easy for them to stop and get it done. The clock doesn't really start until the driver is notified that they have been selected, then the driver has to report in a reasonable amount of time to the testing location and not leave until the process has completed.

    If coworkers have knowledge of who has been chosen for randoms before the chosen drivers, then someone is safety or dispatch is breaking the regulations.
     
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  9. roundhouse

    roundhouse Road Train Member

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    we could always tell you had been selected when dispatch would tell you to call safety department when you were not under a load .

    the only time that dispatch ever asked you to call safety when you wernt under a load , was for safety to tell you , you had been selected for a random drug test .
     
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  10. drivingmissdaisy

    drivingmissdaisy Road Train Member

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    The company I work for now, I got drug tested as part of the orientation process, that's normal. Then I got "randomed" 2 days later. I walked into the place and the girl looked at me and said "You're back?" I said yea, apparently it's a random. She started laughing at the absurdity of it all. I told my company if you "random" me again anytime soon I quit. I haven't been back for a drug test since and that was March of 23.
     
  11. Dennixx

    Dennixx Road Train Member

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    I personally like to get picked "randomly "
    It gives me a chance to catch up on my current events via the magazines and there is a Starbucks next door.
    And we get paid for ours so..
     
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