Recognizing loose lugnuts

Discussion in 'Intermodal Trucking Forum' started by OrangeCat, May 30, 2025 at 4:47 AM.

  1. OrangeCat

    OrangeCat Bobtail Member

    6
    2
    Jul 14, 2023
    0
    I was preparing to move an intermodal yesterday and a more experienced driver was assisting me with another issue, when she pointed out that the lug nuts were close to the end of the bolts. I rejected the trailer but I want to make sure I made the right call. They didn't show the signs of looseness that I was taught to look out for in CDL school, but I did think they looked concerning. Is this normal?
     

    Attached Files:

  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. Iamoverit

    Iamoverit Road Train Member

    1,832
    4,072
    Oct 31, 2023
    0
    Compare it to all the others on all axle ends. All those old chassis are dangerous junk trash. You look hard enough and you'll see all kinds of things you won't like.
     
  4. 201

    201 Road Train Member

    12,162
    24,820
    Apr 16, 2014
    high plains colorado
    0
    Still using wagon wheels, eh? At least it's a tubeless. I hauled a lot of RR wagons and theoretically, that lug, not the end in contact with the rim, the other end, it should not have a gap by the spoke, however, a tough call, as I've hauled many just like that with no problems, until the next flat, that's is. The rim hasn't slid, so it's not loose, and if you are ambitious, you may get half a turn, but I never really had an intermodal long enough to worry. I think you are okay.
     
    MACK E-6 and wis bang Thank this.
  5. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

    13,077
    85,876
    Mar 19, 2014
    Arkansas
    0
    Could you move the wedge?
    Does the rail not have a service bay? Or were you not at rail?
    CSX/CN/UP in Memphis had a way to fix lights/tires is why i ask.
     
    MACK E-6 and Tb0n3 Thank this.
  6. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

    5,883
    31,393
    May 2, 2021
    0
    Don't look loose. The thread that sticks past the end of a nut serves zero function in reality. Not all wedges, nuts, and hub studs are the exact same either, so judging off another set isn't definite either.

    Better safe than sorry, but I'd say those are fine.

    Next time hit it with a hammer and see if it moves.
     
    201 Thanks this.
  7. FLHT

    FLHT Road Train Member

    1,345
    2,319
    Aug 2, 2014
    0
    Look for rust around lugs.
     
    201 Thanks this.
  8. Tb0n3

    Tb0n3 Road Train Member

    4,383
    8,587
    Oct 5, 2012
    Earth
    0
    That's what I was going to say. Hit over the hammer and if the wedge doesn't come loose that's just how they are. It'll ride. Looks like junk though.
    lol you can try looking at the picture.
     
    tscottme Thanks this.
  9. 201

    201 Road Train Member

    12,162
    24,820
    Apr 16, 2014
    high plains colorado
    0
    That's easier on a Budd wheel, those "rust tracks", but on a Dayton style, it's not as easy.
     
    Sons Hero and MACK E-6 Thank this.
  10. SmallPackage

    SmallPackage Road Train Member

    5,365
    16,857
    Dec 20, 2019
    Marion Texas
    0
    That is perfectly fine. 2 or more rounds of thread out of nut and 1/4 to 3/8 gap on cleat is normal and acceptable. They only torque around 185 ft lbs max. on 5/8 stud. 245 on a 3/4 stud.
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.