Running out of hours

Arrive, go on duty customer check-in, get assigned dock, open doors, back in, change to line 1 or 2, go inside. That's how I'd do it.

I'm pretty good about using line 4 properly and will usually stay on duty while being loaded/unloaded but if I had to go inside for an undetermined amount of time I wouldn't stay on duty.

 

So sit in the building and log it as sleeper time if you're standing around waiting to get unloaded it's not on duty if you aren't the one actually unloading the freight

 

Rolling the final 500 yards up to the customer, stop and change status to On Duty. When it clicks over to 6 minutes, change it to Off Duty or Sleeper for the duration of your time there at the customer. Sleeper is more legit though if you get popped for an inspection.

Otherwise if the load is going somewhere you don't want to go, hours of service limitations are one of the 11 legit reasons for a load to be late. So just log On Duty A LOT and keep your hours limited to avoid snowstorms and such when the dispatcher wants to force you to drive into the blizzard, oh look at that I don't have the hours......

 

It's not a good sign when a relatively new driver is in fear of losing his job when something routine happens like running up against the 70 hour rule plus snafus (FUBAR is what I say, but I don't think the mods would like me to say that in words...).

If I had to sit on the picknic table like i did in Bear Island watching my rolls come off the chute from the mill going in one at a time for a few hours with no chance of rest or nap, That truck isnt going to go far tonight. The last time I was there, a werner was raising holy hell about waiting 15+ hours to load his paper rolls. I show up and loaded in 20 minutes.

 

This is correct interpretation of the laws. However, most truck drivers learn what they can get away with, and log to benefit themselves, and make more money.

Then they come here and deny it. Say they always log legit. And try to convince others their way is the only correct way.

Then when the company gets tired of their BS, and has no more work for them, they add up the multitude of times their logs looked illegitimate, and fire with just cause for 'safety reasons.'

Then they show up here in the bad company section complaining how some mega training company fired them for piddly ####.

That has never been the case. It used to be all time at the shipper and receiver were to be logged on duty. Then some mega company lobbing toke over, and tried to add some wiggle room to the interpretation.

Currently, the measure to assess weather your 'on duty' or 'off' is wether your free to pursue activities of your choice. If your required to sit in your truck, waiting room or whatever to be on call, awaiting your unloading/loading, you are to be 'on duty.'

If they tell you come back at 5:00 to pick up the truck you are 'off duty.'

Most drivers ignore that guidance, and log that benefits them.

They often say one thing and mean another. Common thing in the trucking office.

If your required to be there, it is 'on duty.'

Many of the mega company customers require the driver to be somewhere close at hand, in a waiting area or in the truck. They want the driver to jump when they say jump, for the price the trucking company negotiated for the haul. It is work, considered 'on duty', but we all log it how we can get away with in order to maximize the pittance of pennies they pay us to drive a truck.

 

Doesn't anyone teach a driver how to recap anymore?? Hell my AOBR does it for me!!

 

You mean add up seven whole numbers and subtract from 70, Thats fairly tough

 

The recap knows all.

Anyone not running a recap will get seriously burned. It's not a if, but a when.

Get a school notebook, wide lined in basic black. Crayon your daily hours midnight to midnight. in 8th day you will know exactly what your situation WILL BE THE NEXT 8 DAYS. It never stops.

I'll take a giggle and a cheap SHOT at the stupid Education system who chose to keep Common Core Math BS for the poor boys and girls...

 

What happened? Did safety edit your logs? If not they are idiots. And they are the reason load was ######. Or they could have re powered it. Sounds like a small carrier. But maybe a big carrier that does not know what they are doing?

 

All these ELD guys falsifying their logs?
Tisk tisk.