Said i'd never do this......

Discussion in 'Swift' started by DickJones, Dec 20, 2010.

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  1. CondoCruiser

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    Trust me, when you get to 5 years, you have a total different outlook and experience level. You'll understand when you get there. Some mature quicker than others though. I can tell Injun is already there and she's only been driving 3 yrs. But most take 5 years to get the whole picture.
     
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  3. Rug_Trucker

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    6 months . . . .
     
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  4. Injun

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    Aaawwwww...... Say it ain't so, Truck Driver! Our DJ wouldn't do a thing like that, would he???
     
  5. Injun

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    CC: thanks for the flowers, but I still have a long way to go.
     
  6. tinytim

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    That makes no sense. Sure, 22 days is close to three weeks though nowhere near 2. But it's clear that 22 days isn't close to the time it would take to get in 240 hours. You call it nit pickin', I call it pointing out the obvious but you're right, it does no real good.
     
  7. scottied67

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    Playing devil's advocate here, churning out new drivers every 3 weeks would be very lucrative for the mentor. Remember, the first 6 months the student is solo, the mentor gets paid $0.01 for every mile that new driver produces. More than makes up for the $0.05 reduction in per mile pay the mentor gets hit with for taking on a student to their truck.

    10 successful students running 8000 miles a month on a rolling basis (new drivers producing that penny for the mentor coming on as older drivers fall off after 6 months) works out to about $800 a month to the mentor's pocket--easy money. It behooves the mentor to put out safe and outstanding drivers, not just to "mail it in".
     
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  8. Rug_Trucker

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    Except if you are an O/O or L/O and the student rips out your tranny, crashes the truck, crunches a fender, bends a bumper kills a motorist, etc?

    Think swift is going to fix the tranny when their employee tears it up? :biggrin_25513: :biggrin_25523:
     
  9. scottied67

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    It is certainly a gamble. When I look back to the time I first got on the mentor's truck and my skill/confidence level then compared to now, it is like 2 different drivers. I would hold the steering wheel with a death grip and was very mechanical with the shifting. Now I am way more relaxed and the shifting is very smooth, getting smoother every day.

    Today the economy being such as it is, with people coming to trucking from all walks of life may not have the natural aptitude for driving the truck. The student my mentor had after me, took a turn to the left too sharp and wrapped the trailer into a telephone pole. He had about 2 weeks to go, mentor was in the bunk. Swift fired the driver. Of all the rest of the students he's had since me, only 1 has successfully completed the training and has gone solo. With the exception of the one who was fired, the rest quit because they could not handle the lifestyle. This mentor did not help things by invariably driving right up to the shipper/receiver the night before and camping out in the lot til pick up time. Often times, no bathroom, no food, no shower etc. We had food, he would stock up on like 6 cheeseburgers when we did stop for food, but eating a cold cheeseburger for breakfast, lunch and dinner, trying to find a public place to pee without getting busted gets real old real quick when we could have stayed at a nearby truckstop with bathrooms, showers, fresh hot food etc.

    I guess if the students are tearing up the mentor's truck, that should fall back on the mentor's ability to train properly. Dick has the right plan, put the guy in the seat around the terminal negotiating around tight turns with obstacles, shifting up to 3 gear and downshifting through the gears, backing etc before going out on the big road. Build the student's confidence, teach him/her skills to prevent tearing up the truck maybe.
     
  10. DickJones

    DickJones Road Train Member

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    first off, that movie sucked. anything with Keanu Reeves in it sucks.

    to my understanding (and i just sent a message to my DM asking this to verify) but a mentor does not see that penny a mile right away after the student upgrades. the student must continue to drive for swift, and after 6 months, the mentor sees that penny a mile. AND there is a cap of $125/mo in bonus/student pay. if a mentor cranks out a student every month, it'll be a year before he sees that max payout. and that is if the student sticks with it. thats $31.25 a week extra pay....which is 33 miles the driver has to drive to 'make up for' the difference. whats 33 miles? not a whole lot.....the mentor will never really see it.

    you really need to read what is posted in terminals, boy. next time, look around and read everything, rather than head straight for the swift gift shop.
     
  11. DickJones

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    guess after running into your 70 enough times, still under a load, not being able to deliver on time and getting a service failure, you might understand why any driver (not just mentors) drive straight to the final and park there overnight.

    let me explain it to you a little better. You want all the creature comforts of a hot shower, 100 different choices of beverages to drink, 200 different items with too much salt, 500 different items of choice with too much sugar, and if its late enough at night, you'll have to get creative with your parking beause there are no spots available. So your appointment is at 7a, you're parked 30 miles away at a nice Love's T/S....now you have to wake up at 545a, start your clock by 6a-615a, show a pre-trip.....show driving for 30 minutes and showing L4 for 15 min. for arrivial. There is an hour out of your day....then you end up driving back to the Love's to sit and wait for your next load, the whole time your clock is tick-tick-ticking away.

    You could have just driven to the final, parked, woke up at 630a, get dressed, did your Mac 5, present yourself to receiving and back into a dock, wait to get unloaded, then pull back out and park where you parked overnight.......then when you get a preplan in 4 hrs....you got a fresh clock. least thats the way i do it. (er....without a student anyway).

    you're given 70 hrs for 8 days to work.....and you only get paid when you're on L3. So you've gotta get as much L3 time in that 70 as you can to max what you can get paid. Sitting waiting for loads don't add anything to your paycheck. But then again, you've only been driving for a quarter of the time i've been (maybe less).... you'll learn how to make the most of it.
     
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