Sliding 5th wheel: Why do some drivers ride with the 5th Wheel so far back?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by loose_leafs, Jan 25, 2017.

  1. loose_leafs

    loose_leafs Road Train Member

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    I can never figure this out. No matter what truck he drives, one of our local drivers ALWAYS yanks the 5th wheel nearly as far back as it goes when he is assigned a truck for any length of time. I see no advantage to it, I ask him about he says "I'll never be over on the steers that way."

    To be honest, I think it makes the truck ride and handle worse, plus ads turning radius in tight areas where inches count. Also when you are close to maxed out at 80000, Being at least 12200 or more on your steers saves room for fuel and a little room for adjusting weight between the drives and trailer if you are still able.

    Our trucks have long enough frames/wheelbases to where even if you have it all the way forward you have little to no danger of pinching a wing or the airlines, unless you are a complete moron. I have crossed Truckee scales with 12400 on my steers, Banning, as well as the anal retentive Saint Croix MN, never been bothered about being overweight on the steers.
     
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  3. Byx

    Byx Light Load Member

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    They think it looks cool, worry about your own rig man.
     
  4. Gunner75

    Gunner75 Road Train Member

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    My dad's truck has an adjustable fifth wheel but the previous owner took off the air system and bolted it in place. In flatbed I always run with it all the way back, gives me extra room for when I need to use the overhang on the front
     
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  5. duckdiver

    duckdiver Road Train Member

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    I need to slide them all the way back when i pull a 28 foot tlr or it will rip the mudflaps off
     
  6. special-k

    special-k Road Train Member

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    I'm with you loose leaf. I don't understand it either. Any truck I've driven rides and scales better with it centered or close to the centerline of the front drive axle. I can understand it if you have to for clearance but to just do it seems wrong.
    Dix. In your world I guess its wrong to ask questions and try to learn something? Just because it's someone else's truck? Gives me an idea what kind of an operator you are.
     
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  7. Pnwtrucker

    Pnwtrucker Medium Load Member

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    I run with mine slid all the way back always. Think it rides better plus it leaves plenty of room I can walk under the neck of my step. Just driver preference I think.
     
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  8. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    All states have a limit of at least 20,000 as long as your axle and tires allow it. On the interstate at least.
    With a setback axle what kind of steer weight can you achieve with 5th wheel all the way back and drives at 34? Seems like the teeter totter effect would be undesirable, especially in rain or snowy conditions where steer weight helps.
     
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  9. Byx

    Byx Light Load Member

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    He wasn't trying to learn anything. And I'm a "you do you I'll do me" sort of operator. You have no idea about me.
     
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  10. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    You're actually screwing yourself of the full 80 also. Unless you're pulling a 10 ft spread axle to add the weight to the back.

    My 5th wheel position weighed 12.8 on the steers with full tanks. The only time it went back was for 60 foot loads. Or through oregon where i'd slide it back 2 notches. Oregon charged me $300 for being over bridge weight and told me they only allow 12.3 on the steers. Oregon bridge is 2500 pounds less then national bridge.
     
  11. Wooly Rhino

    Wooly Rhino Road Train Member

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    By keeping the fifth wheel all the way back you increase the gap between the back of the cap and the front of the trailer. This keeps the fuel economy down which helps drive the cost of diesel higher. The drivers who do this are Terrorist. I would turn them over to the Department of Homeland Security. They should be sent to prison where they can have the sex reassignment surgery that they so desperately seek.

    Either that or it is just a personal preference.
     
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