Smartphone, tablet logging apps no longer require printing or manual signatures

I did not say that nor do the links... If you log sleeper (line 1), they you must have a sleeper.

You can log line 2 for 10 hours, but you will not get a very great sleep on a seat.

Sleeper Birth Provision 

The first qualification is to have a sleeper berth

Day cab units cannot split up the 10 hours, and must always get 10 consecutive hours off-duty.

Drivers with sleeper births can split the 10 hours into 2 periods.

One period must be in the sleeper birth for at least 8 consecutive hours but less than 10 consecutive hours; and a separate period of at least 2 consecutive hours but less than 10 consecutive hours can be in the sleeper berth, off-duty, or any combination of both.

If the driver gets more than 2 hours in the smaller rest period, the driver must still get at least 8 hours in the other sleeper period.

 

Before you tend to go to the wrong end, YES I understand what is actually being said. Yes I know how to be legal and illegal. Don't judge others. I drove OTR for 3 years and yes I kept paper logs. So, you are telling me that you will drive for 11 hours, sit off duty for 10 not sleeping and then drive another 11 hours... I am pretty sure this would be interesting in court when they run into a family and kill them. I am sure the lack of not sleeping in the regulations will hold up.

I know what it feels like to be out for 2-3 months at a time with only an 34 to catch up on sleep. I know what is it like to drive 640 miles and what it feels like at the end of the 11 hours. I know what if it like to do this day in and day out.

So common sense and I know that is not in the regulations would dictate that you would need to sleep.

The regulations also mention nothing about getting dressed before you drive, brushing your teeth, using the bathroom, etc, this is common sense and the need for your body to preform certain functions. Sleep would be one of those your body needs to do.

You would be very hard pressed to get a restful sleep sitting upright in a seat in a day cab for 10 hours. You may catnap, but not a deep sleep. If this was the case all mega companies would run day cabs to save on costs and weight.

 

Thanks,,

 

Never said you could not log it as off duty. Would you want to spend 2-3 months on the road in a day cab sleeping daily in your seat? I can see the odd time someone driving a day cab might be forced into that situation. But, for daily use the day cab was not made for spending your 10 hours off duty sleeping in the seat.

Just because you have spend 10-12 years on the road does not make you the expert. I am not an expert either, but at least I try to find the answers and not post something without finding the regulation to support it.

I have run into many drivers that have been 20-40 years on the road and don't know the differences between and STAA and Non-STAA road. The regulations constantly change and they are some confusing. The most common one that most do not understand is how to log a Pre/Post trip. Ask and you will get a variety of answers and many have driven many many years.

So to summarize. Yes you can log Off duty in a Day Cab and sleep in the seat. No you cannot log sleeper in a Day Cab.

Yes you can chose not to sleep in your 10 hours break because DOT has not specified you must sleep.

Have a nice day.