Snackbar is chillin'....at Shaffer

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  1. supersnackbar

    supersnackbar Road Train Member

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    Based on your post that broke down your pay, you get a lot more accessorial pay than we do...trailer search pay? Trailer shuttle pay? Holiday pay? Bobtail pay? Here, bobtail pay is the same as pulling a trailer. The only holiday pay we get is if we work the holiday, and it's whatever the miles we ran as part of a load. That's why I call b.s. on that amount...there isn't a lot of extra pay beyond mileage pay that makes much of a difference over here...unless he recruited a bunch of drivers, but I am sure if he did, there would be a column on that paysheet for it somewhere
     
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  3. kylefitzy

    kylefitzy Road Train Member

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    One thing that jumped out to me on that adp settlement is the missing breakdown on each pay category. I have 11 line items that add up to my year to date gross. Where are his? Maybe your ADP settlements are different?
     
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  4. gentleroger

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    Bobtail pays the same as linehaul, they just break it out so they can understand the true cost of loads and judge the planners.

    Again, I know nothing about y'alls pay structure, but half the drivers I meet at my company don't understand our pay structure.

    There are 3 mileage guys 'helping out' on the account I'm running right now. The other two 'opt' for the longer loads. One guy loves the Indy run. As my first run of the day I grab the load from the north side of Milwaukee and 'relay' it just south of Milwaukee, then scoot over to a customer, grab an mt (shuttle pay) and head back to the plant. Total pay $100 for less than 3 hours of total time. I can knock out at least two more loads, and if there's freight a third. Conservatively I'm looking at a $300, 11 hour day. Meanwhile, "Marc" hooks to that relay and boogies down to Indy, gets unload and back to our drop lot. He made $290 and ran a 13 hour day. "Marc" thinks he makes the same money that I do.

    Zack runs 30 days at a time and then goes home for 6. Zack doesn't like to burn more than 9 hours off his 70 a day. Zack spends his weekends shuttling empty trailers back to the plant. Empty shuttles pay $10 less a 'load' than running freight for the same amount of time. Zack doesn't understand it would be more beneficial financially to run hard m-f, do a couple of loads/shuttles on Saturday then take a 34 on Sunday. Easily an extra $3,000 a year for the same total amount of work.

    Neither of them seem to understand how our pay structure works. Heck, when I started on this account I had to have several conversations with dispatch about which loads paid better for me. He kept trying to give me miles when I kept trying to maximize loads.

    The flip side is running OTR it's better to run the recap and keep moving. Most of our loads have open drop windows, so I've learned how to stagger my times to make sure I'm in a good position for the next load. Sometimes that means pushing and sometimes it means taking it easy. It depends on where in the country I am, where I'm heading to, and how much time is on my 70. It's art as much as it is science.

    A couple of years ago I interviewed for an in house managerial position. When we got to the salary portion, I asked for 85% of what I was making as a driver. That was a deal breaker, and the hiring manager didn't think I was telling her the truth about what I made. About 3 years into driving I was in the office and having a conversation with the Ops manager about something pay related, I don't recall what. I do recall he pulled up and excel spreadsheet with all the drivers annual payouts and I was in the top 10. I hadn't yet topped out in the pay scale, but I was out earning drivers with more than 20 years experience.

    I also recall that a few years ago I posted a W-2 and was 'called out' because my tax withholding was very small, percentage wise. That was back when drivers could claim per diem on their tax returns, so selecting greater than the standard deduction on the w-4 was a sound decision based just on my driving income. When you consider my larger tax picture, I had to make quarterly tax payments and my accountant advised me to take a smaller withholding so that at the end of the year I was paying in about $1,000-$3,000 rather than getting a massive return. Based on that one line item, many TTR members thought I was pulling a fast one. They thought I'd spent time falsifying a W-2 for 'internet cred' on a small trucking forum. Please. We should all be more open and honest about what we are being paid and what work is required to earn that pay.
     
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  5. newbietrucker91

    newbietrucker91 Road Train Member

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    Got into my loaner today. Went from a red to a blue truck. Here's to it running smoothly.
     
  6. 074344

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    You missed my point as well. It's not about what you make. It's how you make you it
    You missed my point as well. What you make is what you make. You are paid exactly what you are worth to the company. Same as me. I'm simply asking how much out of pocket does it cost you to work for company?
     
  7. Lonesome

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    Heard you the first time.

    It seems you pay union dues, what are they anymore? Used to be 2 hrs wage a month.Not sure what they are these days. Anyway, how can you talk about "free" healthcare, when it cost's you to join, and stay a member of the Teamsters? Or don't dues count?
    My healthcare is $7.00 a week, and the company provides $10.00 a week, into a HSA. I'm happy with it.

    I'm done with this babble, this is SSB's thread, and I'm not detouring it any more.
     
  8. 074344

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    But what does insurance cost beyond the driver?
    Is the company picking up the healthcare tab for all members of a a family or just the employee? And by healthcare, I mean medical, dental vision and prescription. So out of your pay for the year, you contributed $19,500.00 out of your pocket towards retirement and the company only gave you $4100.00? Is that a decent match? Forgive me because I don't know. No sick days? Not useful? I don't get it? If you are out on the road and get COVID, the Flu, a cold or are just too tired too tired to drive for whatever reason, you don't get paid? You are still in charge of their equipment. And are you telling that you don't get paid extra for working on a holiday? How fair is that? We get 10 recognized holidays as well as 2 floating holidays. And if we work on any of those, we are paid more for that time. Your vacation pay seems decent. As for food, I have no idea what it costs to eat out every day as opposed to eating at home?
     
  9. supersnackbar

    supersnackbar Road Train Member

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    Micromanaging department got one step closer to the "A-hole" button. My current load is a CCNA load (Coca-cola of North America). It is a "protect from freezing" only load. Picked it up in 23° weather without the reefer running. Drove all the way to western MO without the reefer running, but before shutting down for the night, I turned the reefer on, and it was still 47° in the box, so I made that my set point. Watched some Netflix while eating supper, and after a few NCIS episodes, decided to hit the sack. I never heard the reefer fire up once before falling asleep. This morning, it was between 10-12° outside, and the box temp was only down to 46 (it probably started during my beauty sleep at some point). I get up, shower and get moving before the KC traffic gets started. All the way across KS until around an hour past sunrise, the outside temps were anywhere between 6 and 10°...again, never heard the unit fire. Got to Colby, KS, went shopping at Walmart, and only had to wear my hoodie because it had gotten up to the mid 40's. When I crossed into CO, it had warmed up to the high 50's, so I pulled in the welcome center, got out and shut the unit off because it was getting warm enough that it was about to start and go into cool, and I wanted the load to soak up some of the warmer temps so it runs less tonite. No sense in cooling it down before it gets cold tonight. 5 minutes after I shut it off, I get a message from Lincoln telling me I have to run this load at 50° on cycle to keep from freezing. I explained that it's warmer than that outside, and that the unit was about to start because the box temp was almost to where it wanted to cool the load...there was no need to run it right now. Then I was told to make sure I keep an eye on the temps because it will cool down this evening...'no #### Sherlock'(that is what I thought, not what I said). I reminded him that I do know how to do my job and that is why they pay us more than Crete drivers because watching the temps is one of a reefer drivers responsibilities...2 minutes later, the unit got turned back on remotely, and the temperature set point was changed...it's like they don't need us at all except to hold the wheel and warm the seat. They can set the temp, start the unit, stop the unit, change modes...basically, a chimpanzee and 2 trainee's are all they need. But, just to be a jerk...I went out and shut off the main power switch they have for when the shop is working on the unit, and they can try all they want...they can't override that unless they use 'the force' to flip the switch.
     
  10. BM 58

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    You definitely put up with more horse$&@? from those idiots than most would!
     
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  11. tallguy66

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    Anyone got experience with the grand island JBS plant?
     
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