Splitting your clock

What?
They’re full of bs.
Tell them to read the regulations.

What is the Split-Sleeper Berth Exception?

What rest periods qualify for the split sleeper berth provision? | FMCSA

At least 7 hours sleeper, 3 off duty. Or 8 sleeper 2 off duty.

 

Here's the deal. The way the rule is written, if you take the short part of a split during the day, you must follow it up with the required sleeper portion. If you don't, it's an invalid split and a retroactive violation.

If I use the split right before a 34, I just put myself in the sleeper, and go back when I return to the truck and put myself off-duty after the required sleeper time.

 

I kinda depends on how he's doing the split. For a split to be valid a sleeper berth time of at least 7 house must be taken. Not Off Duty, but Sleeper.
Yes it makes no sense, but that's the regulations for you.
Valid, start the day, later go to sleeper for 7 hours, this stops the clock. Go home and go off duty for 3 (or 10, or 34) and all that resets the clock.
Not valid, Start the day, later take a 3 hour off duty or sleeper to pause the clock, then go home and do a 10 or 34. In that case there was no sleeper so that 3 hour pause doesn't count and the original 14 rule s in effect.

As for the 34, it does reset the clock yes. The 14 hour violation on Friday would still be there though.

 

Only HOS violation I've had so far. I did alittle over 3 hours of off duty to stop my 14 from running down and to be able to keep an appointment. Afterwards, I took a full 10. Figured since I took a full 10, in off duty, the sleeper berth portion would be a mute point (in reality it is a mute point). Got a call from safety about it. He didn't really fuss at me, he just went over the whole thing and informed me, that regardless of how mute a point it is, you still HAVE to show the 7 hour sleeper berth or it's technically a violation.
So, yeah, it doesn't make sense if after the off duty segment, you have to show the sleeper berth portion, even though you take a 10 or 34. But, it is the way the current rules require it and an HOS violation if not done. Perhaps sometime in the future they'll update it where taking a 10 or 34 negates having to show the sleeper berth segment.
BTW, to the best of my knowledge, the sleeper berth portion simply has to be performed before your next on duty or driving event. So, perhaps your could go off duty for your 34. But, when you get back to the truck do the sleeper berth portion then. I don't see why this wouldn't technically work. When I do a split, I never go directly from on duty or driving to sleeper berth. I always go off duty first. Then, when I'm actually ready to go to bed, I'll flip it to sleeper berth. When I go for hometime, I park my truck at the nearest terminal, which is about 170 miles from my home, then grab my Jeep that parked there and head home. When I return, I often return the evening before I actually go back out. Gives me time to unpack, settle in, do any last minute shopping I may need to do and afterward, go to sleep in my truck and be ready to go back out the next morning. So, that 'solution' could work for my situation.When the opportunity exists to test it, I will and see what happens. I haven't seen anything that shows how soon the sleeper berth portion must be taken, except that it must be taken before going back on duty or driving.

 

Do you not have the ability to add past duty events?

 

Go home on sleeper edit logs when ur back call it a day

 

Here is the split sleeper provision. It's actually fairly short, and I think that is what one of the issues is. It's doesn't explain it too well.
Anyway, I highlighted in red the relevant portion.

Sleeper berth. A driver may accumulate the equivalent of at least 10 consecutive hours off-duty by taking not more than two periods of either sleeper berth time or a combination of off-duty time and sleeper berth time if:

(A) Neither rest period is shorter than 2 consecutive hours;
(B) One rest period is at least 7 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth;
(C) The total of the two periods is at least 10 hours; and
(D) Driving time in the period immediately before and after each rest period, when added together:
(1) Does not exceed 11 hours under § 395.3(a)(3); and
(2) Does not violate the 14-hour duty-period limit under § 395.3(a)(2).