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Only thing I'd say you did wrong was hauling crushed cars to begin with. I will say it's been my experience basing rate off weight usually doesn't actually pay any better.

 

Your looking at it the wrong way. Rate con says 46k that means from 0-46k. That means your going to the shipper expecting 46k not 48k. Same as mechanics who charge book labor. 9 hours? He’s done in 3. But its max 9 not more.

 

Reason 3,847,261,784 not to haul crushed cars.

 

Ok if you say so...

I said I'm not disagreeing with the original post.

All I'm saying it is a losing battle to complain about getting loaded to 80k running bulk loads.

End of conversation...

 

Not knocking you at all but I do agree when you haul bulk products like that their job is to get you onto the scale and get as much of their product moved within 80,000 pounds as they can.

Also, you need to listen to the rate con, but that's not always exactly correct.

Somewhere on the rate con it may say truck can be loaded up to 80,000 lb.

Sometimes when Brokers write the ratecon there are things on there that are there but it's not necessarily what you go by.

For example the broker that wrote that ratecon may have just had trucks he dealt with before that could only scale 46. Or maybe he just knows that most of the loads that he books are generally not heavier than 46,000 or so. That number may have absolutely nothing to do with the scrap yard. Sometimes that number is just kind of fill in the blank. If you talk to the broker he probably would tell you 46,000 is just a number.

I understand you not wanting your truck to overwork, but your lightweight plus whatever they load you with is 80,000 pounds. If your combination was heavier you're still pulling the same 80,000 pounds.

So even if you could only scale 46,000, you still are pulling 80,000 lb. What's the difference? If it were me I think I would have just asked the broker if he can give me a little bit of a better rate because my truck can haul more.

But either way you're still only pulling 80,000 lb. No overworking your truck there. As long as you can legally scale at 80,000 lb that's it.

My own opinion is to urge you to stop what you're doing immediately because hauling scrap cars those yards are notorious for giving you flats. Mostly everyone I know that did that kind of work stop because the flats cost them too much money. And the rates were crap.

So because your combination is so light you need loads that are a specific order for a specific place with a specific set number of pieces with a specific weight. Most of those kinds of loads would be 46,000 pounds or so. Or you have to get paid by the ton.

I do agree with the other person. You're probably banned from there.

 

If the contract is 46K I wouldn’t budge over 46K. Just thing of all the favours the brokers have done for you.

 

Oh…
Yeah. That’s more than 3 for sure!!

 

I’m don’t disagree when it comes to this load. 2 k isn’t gonna make much difference. But book a 10k load and have them load up 46k now that’s an issue. But the question still stands is where do you draw the line and how much is to much over rate con stated weights?

 

They do the same with dry bulk, one shipper sends dried molasses at flat rate, but they want 50k minimum, 49,500 they’ll send you back to load that extra and usually you’ll be 51500-52000, and they don’t have scales, you gotta go use the rock yards down the street, around the corner and made for straight trucks, so you split weigh to see what you got.

 

I've been having the opposite happen recently. Rate con will say 44k and it'll either be 38 or 40k