I checked out the CDOT website and could not find any law stating it is a requirement to chain the steers. I did see the parts about chaining single or tandem drives.
swift driver chaining up
Discussion in 'Road Stories' started by eddennis1, Dec 23, 2010.
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Evidently you can't either.
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Some companies are the subject of constant ridicule for pretty good reasons whether the people that work there like it or not.
I don't really go out of my way to hack on any particular company as a rule but there are companies out here that get hacked on because of the steady stream of stupid crap that their drivers do.
These bottom feeder companies that hire anyone with a heartbeat and inadequately train them and then cut them loose on the road to make huge mistakes and drag an industry that is plagued with image problems even further down the toilet are creating the problems for their own drivers.
I know some good drivers at SWIFT, CR England, Werner, JB Hunt and most of the other companies that are guilty of shoving hack drivers out onto the road to cause mayhem and destruction wherever they go.
Some of us that have watched this get worse and worse over the years are going to say things....We always have and we always will!
I've seen some morons in trucks that are run by small companies as well and I aint bashful about sayin' something to these idots either!
But, The fact of the matter is that big highly visible companies that have a lot of rookie drivers out there are going to attract attention.
The good drivers that are working there ought to know this and expect some teasing from time to time...Because it isn't gonna stop.
I remember when it was ROADWAY EXPRESS that got hacked on all the time! I also remember when CR England was a decent company and not a running joke in the industry.
This is still an industry that is predominantly comprised of high spirited individuals that'll say what they have on their mind whether it's nice or not and it is probably worth saying that if you don't have pretty thick skin, You're gonna get your feelings hurt sometimes.
You need to learn to let things roll off your back because people are always gonna be mean and nasty to each other for whatever reasons they might have to act that way and the only one that's gonna have a hard time is the one that dwells on it and can't just let it go.scottied67, Roscopeco and Joetro Thank this. -
It's sounds like the "Swift bashing is getting old" and I agree. Come on, Help a newbie out, don't Bash him.
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No... you don't see it there. However, the state law was never changed... and, CSP from time to time will require you to chain your steers. But conditions have to be REALLY bad for them to do that. I've lived in Colorado most of my life, and dealing with mountain driving in the winter is something I've dealt with for a long time. State law gives CSP some really wide latitude in enforcement... not for just exceeding maximum limits either. For example... doing the speed limit in adverse conditions can get you a speeding ticket - even though you're not exceeding the speed limit. State law gives them the power to determine that you are operating a vehicle in an unsafe manner.
On the subject of CA and OR... they do the same thing. Another driver at my carrier was required to chain-up on all five axles going over Donner - I believe that was last year, rather than this year - had to buy 4 additional sets to get over the pass. In average condition most of these states will let you get away with not going full-bore on the chains - and you get away with it as long as you don't get stuck. -
Thank you all for your comments on my post. They were both titilating and informative. Have a Merry Christmas
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Some of you have expressed an interest in the Oilpatch. Be forwarned, you bloody well carry a steering chain and use it a lot more than you think.
Always had my steering chain with crossbars at every 3 side rail links. That let the tire run on steel at all times and stopped the tire from bouncing. -
hmmm i worked in the patch for 3 winters--never chained up once--mind you i was running a d-8 and we did weld ice lugs on the pads
after seeing what those drivers have to go thru--i was determined to never drive trucks in the patch---chaining up 12 months of the year at times cause your spinning out at the top of the hills
one year i ran tow cat into the rigs--chains didnt help the trucks at all--had to drag them about 5 miles thru knee deep mud--felt so sorry for those poor trucks and driversscottied67 Thanks this. -
So....In the 30+years that I have been running in Colorado in the winter I have NEVER repeat NEVER been told to chain a steer tire and have Never seen anyone with chains on their steer tires.
You posted the link to back up your story and it proved you wrong so now you come up with this crap!
Sorry dude but this is not true either!
I've been running Donner as long as I've been driving and again, Have NEVER heard of or seen this happen!
Max. Chains is Max. Chains....There is no "More than Max. Chains".
If the road gets bad enough that "Max. Chains" is insufficeint, They close it!
You are wrong! No matter how many times you repeat it, It's still not gonna be true.Truck Driver and Joetro Thank this. -
I was raised in Texas, central Texas. I never saw actual snow until about 3 years ago in MA. If it iced up, we closed everything. Then I moved to the Phoenix area......need I say "no snow no ice"?
I will admit that I figured you had to put chains on every single tire, steers included UNTIL someone taught me.
That's the thing....we all need to be taught something. Perhaps those who think everyone should just automatically know about chaining might want to drive out in black land and I'll be happy to HELP you get your truck out of the concrete like mud. I won't laugh, I'll HELP you.
Merry ChristmasInjun Thanks this.
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