T-Force/What's It Like Starting Out Here?

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  1. Davo53209

    Davo53209 Bobtail Member

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    Hello Everyone:

    Now that T-Force has bought out UPS Freight, I've been starting to wonder what it would be like to start out as line-haul driver from the bottom of the pecking order.

    According to what I've been told by other forum members in the past, UPS has always been a union shop, whereby making new drivers pay their dues. Most notably, being on-call 24/7 for 4-5 years, while being paid around $16/hour, or so before being given consistent hours and a significant bump in pay.

    So with regards to working for T-Force as a new line-haul/feeder driver, are all of these so-called "Traditional" UPS characteristics still in play? For example: Is there still going to be a union under T-Force?
    -Will a new driver still have to be on-call for 4-5years?
    - How much is the expected company match for the 401K?
    -What is the expected starting hourly pay for line-haul or CPM?
    -Will OT hours start after 40hrs?
     
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  3. jmz

    jmz Heavy Load Member

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    You are mixing information about two different jobs at two different companies. UPS still has feeder drivers that haul packages around. T-Force is the former UPS Freight, their LTL division. Also, the buyout doesn’t change anything with regards to the union.

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  4. Davo53209

    Davo53209 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for clarifying that T-Force is LTL, or formerly UPS Freight. Is there anyone on the Forum who has experienced what it's like to work with T-Force since the change?
     
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  5. road_runner

    road_runner Road Train Member

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    I have a friend that works for UPS Freight (now T-Force). $16/hour is fair market value for a forklift driver working the docks. I doubt there are any terminals that hire drivers at that rate. My friends starts at $25/hour and they top out around $30 in our area. Expect to sit at home or flat out get laid off the first few years if you are at the bottom.

    If I remember right, linehaul is $0.65-$0.75 per mile. This will vary by region.

    T-Force would have to honor the union contract I would imagine. With that said, we don't have a 401K, for what it's worth; we are supposed to get a pension.

    Right now I see the same crap equipment with giant T-Force decals covering up the old UPS logos. So don't hold your breath expecting the new boss flooding your yard with new trucks and trailers.
     
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    Cardfan89 Medium Load Member

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    Covering up the overnite logo lol.
     
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  7. Gomer1969

    Gomer1969 Light Load Member

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    Look up the Tforce blogs on the Truckingboards. You'll get all your questions answered over on that site.
     
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  8. LtlAnonymous

    LtlAnonymous Road Train Member

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    I work for UPS, not UPS Freight/T-Force, so I can't enlighten you too much on the day-to-day stuff.

    All of that union stuff is up in the air, depending on what the company wants to work out with the employees at the end of this contract. From what I understand, the parent company has some other Union companies, so that could be a good thing.

    As for overtime, that will depend on if you are a city or linehaul driver. Linehaul gets none, city gets over time after a certain number of hours. I don't know if it's 40.

    And unfortunately, that's kind of all I know about that. Which is practically nothing. Lol
     
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  9. Davo53209

    Davo53209 Bobtail Member

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    Without revealing my age, I no longer have that kind of time to wait 5yrs to be on-call or potentially laid off. Also with age in mind, I would benefit more with an employer 401K match that I could max out every year, instead of the pension plan offered by UPS and their non-matching 401K.

    So with everything said from the other forum members, it would appear that working for T-Force would be no different than UPS.
     
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  10. Gomer1969

    Gomer1969 Light Load Member

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    Truckingboards LTL Trucking Forum
     
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  11. Gomer1969

    Gomer1969 Light Load Member

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    Like I said in a previous comment. If you go to the Truckingboards site you can scroll down to the Tforce threads and find out everything you need to know.
     
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