Taking the plunge. My journey as an O/O.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Farmerbob1, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. dunchues

    dunchues Medium Load Member

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    As your truck ages so obviously your maintenance and repair costs go up too, plus most still have the payment. I tend to fix things like you do, i.e. as soon as I know there's an issue, which some say is overmaintaining and not cost effective but I'm wired the way I'm wired and I can't do it any other way. The real killer is the downtime, and you can't get that back.

    For me new with max warranties worked out best. I have a stiff payment but it's affordable and only maintenance and wear items to pay for, I think it would be best for you too. You're obviously not scared of work but you spend a lot of time fettling your ride , probably too much time to my mind. You are clearly in it for the long haul and I'd seriously urge you to consider changing to a newer truck in the shorter term.
     
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    FYDA in Columbus is supposed to be a decent shop. @Dave_in_AZ
     
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    Yes they are. Might wait a day or 2.
     
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    This was the plan, but after some thinking about risks, finances, and retirement, I have another plan. I'll put it in another post shortly.
     
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    That Fyda is a good shop. There's almost almost a line to get in there with at least a day wait. There's a reason for that.
     
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    Well, at this point, I have proven that I have the work ethic and ability to be an o/o. However, I also have other factors working against a long-term commitment to being an o/o.

    First, I love the job, but have a strong dislike of tax paperwork and fiddly crap associated with business ownership.

    Second, I tend to be a bit OCD about truck repairs. I control the costs of this to some degree with my hometime schedule, but it still impacts the bottom line.

    Third, I prefer not to turn a wrench myself. I am not a diesel mechanic, and got enough skinned knuckles in the steel mill, thanks.

    Fourth, while I am in a business arrangement where Crete doesn't pay me much for miles, they do pay deadhead miles, washout costs, reasonable tolls, and I have access to their fuel discounts and healthcare plan. All told, my benefits from Crete are better than the basic CPM, though I am NOT claiming they are good, they aren't as bad as the simple numbers indicate. As an o/o in most other places, I would eat all those costs.

    Fifth, like with most businesses, you won't really start to make money until you either become a specialist with a strong market, or have other people working for you. I have no desire to deep dive into specialty freight, and employees are more paperwork and drama - neither of which I want.

    Sixth, trucking is an industry with strong swings up and down. Normally it's the little guys that get hurt during market dips. I'm a hard enough worker that I can get through most dips, I'm sure, but they would still hurt, I am also sure.

    Seventh, leaving Crete will lose me my seniority (yes it still accrues while I am a contract employee with my own truck, so long as I remain employed continuously.)

    Eighth, I am 50 years old in two days, and I really need to start pushing money into buying property and pushing money into retirement investments.

    Ninth, the truck resale market is pretty decent right now, and I do have the maintenance records to show a buyer that I didn't simply run it into the ground.

    Tenth, I am currently working on a patent, and there are significant expenses associated with that which, if they come due at a time when the freight market is in a slump, it could hurt.

    Lastly, one of my biggest failings is that I am very headstrong. If you tell me I can't do something, that just makes me want it more. There's a place for this, but I had a long think with pen and paper pros and cons, and I think I was headed in the wrong direction with all the notes indicated above.

    So, I have decided that I will simply sell the truck and remain with Crete. They pay well, and aren't too annoying as long as you are professional and willing to work as a team. I get to keep good health insurance, and run lots of open road miles. I can participate in their retirement plans, and with four and a half years at the company, I will have my mileage pay and bonus rate ticked up a bit. Also, upon return as a company driver, I will get vacation time based on my start date, despite being an o/o. As others have said, based on how I like to run, I should be able to pull in something in the range of 90-100k per year without all the headaches of being an o/o.

    If I were married with a spouse who could either ride with me, or help me handle paperwork and business stuff from the house, being an o/o would be more feasible. Doing it all from the truck is painfully annoying at times.

    If I were much younger, I could start the process of building a multi-truck o/o business even without a spouse. Sure I could do it at my age now, but I would really have to pile on the ulcers to do so, would likely start to hate the job, and would likely keep working at it until I die at my desk or behind the wheel. I have a powerful work ethic, but I am also very conservative in how much risk I want to expose myself to. Someone more willing to take risks and build quickly might make a different decision than me, at my age.

    TLDR

    I had a long think, looking at my situation, the pros, the cons, and what I want in life vs what I don't want in my life, and decided that I am going back to being a company driver without losing four years of time investment with Crete.

    I'm not simply dropping the truck and hopping back into a Crete truck yet.

    Anyone care to suggest a good place to sell a 2016 Cascadia dd15 Eaton 10 (manual,) with @776+k miles?
     
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    Screenshot_20210322-085112_ADPMobile~2.jpg I think going back to Crete as company driver..is a great idea...you gave being an O/O a good try...but with Crete paying .65 cpm...plus the extra .04 cpm quarterly bonus..and the yearly profit sharing which is at least an extra $3000 or more a year...company driver isn't a bad choice...this is what I made in 2020...before all the pay increases I've gotten so far this year
     
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    No shame in going back…..

    My last company job was 1995 I don’t think I could go back………

    Even in this market what’s the truck worth private sale $45K maybe…. And you have to pay capital gains on that
     
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    Dealerships are low on inventory. If they’re like the car dealers they are offering top dollar.
    If not some will sale on consignment.
     
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    You can also try selling the truck on Crete Peoplenet... that goes to all the Crete/ Shaffer drivers...on their Peoplenet tablet
     
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