Taking the plunge. My journey as an O/O.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Farmerbob1, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. The Biggest Dawg

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  3. spyder7723

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    You misunderstand what im saying. Don't involve the warranty company at all with the extra stuff. Talk straight to the service manager of the shop.
     
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  4. Farmerbob1

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    I understand, but I consider this truck to be my practice truck for being an o/o. I have no intention of keeping it.

    The position of the crack on the head indicated to the shop that the problem with the cylinder liner was due to the crack. The other cylinders should be fine, but I have requested they verify that. I also asked if they can inspect the cylinder itself for issues. If they do find the cylinder is also a problem, and it might be, then I will consider more work than replacing one liner & cylinder.

    I really do not want to sink 25K of my own money, or more, into a full engine rebuild if I can make the truck solidly functional for less.
     
  5. Farmerbob1

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    If one cylinder liner is found to be damaged, then TruNorth will cover one cylinder liner, the labor, and nothing else. If that cylinder is found to have an issue, then that cylinder will be replaced, and they will pay only for that cylinder and the labor to replace it alone.

    I could arrange to do additional work separately, but I do not want to invest an enormous amount of money into this truck if I can avoid it.
     
  6. The Biggest Dawg

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    You want to buy a brand new truck?
     
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    You dont understand. We're aren't taking about spending 25k. We are taking about spending 2kish to get the other 5 pistons and liners done. While it's all apart.

    Think of it this way. If a wheel seal goes out you got to pull the tires, brake drum, and hub. The labor is already done so if the drum and shoes are worn you would go ahead and get new ones since 75% of the labor cost is already being spent.

    They have the head off. They have the pan dropped. Now all that needs done is removing two bolts on the rod bearing cap then pushing the rod and piston up out of the liner, setting the liner tool in the hole and hitting it with an impact for 10 seconds to get the liner out.
    You are looking at 1 hour labor per hole to remove the old and replace with new

    Seriously man right now you are about 5 hours labor to have a rebuilt engine. Everything else is already being done under the warranty.
     
  8. Farmerbob1

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    Hrm. I will talk to them tomorrow. If it's really that easy, and not much more expensive than what's already being done, I'll see if we can manage it on a different work order.
     
  9. Farmerbob1

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    I want to buy a new truck, yes, or perhaps one with a year or less on it, single owner. Maybe a 1-year lease return with a lot of warrantee left in it.
     
  10. spyder7723

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    Google or you tube a video of rebuilding a big diesel engine. You will see why im saying you got 90% of the labor cost already invested here. Im not even gonna try to guess what piston packs cost for your engine but they can't be much more than the older ones. It's not like they started using a special metal with diamonds in it. 6 pistons kits and liners on the older engines are under 2500. What makes a rebuild cost 25k is the labor getting everything off the block to access them, which you already have done

    What you need to be discussing with the service manager is the cost to you of doing 5 piston kits and rod and main bearings. The other things a rebuild would typically involve can be done later. Injectors/water pump/etc.
     
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  11. 062

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    Spyder is pointing you in the right direction. You’ll have a fresh motor with someone else covering the majority of the cost.
    As far as wanting to dump the truck. Sit down and do the math on how long it will take to save enough money, to be able to buy the truck you want paying cash. Then try to look at it as if someone else in your situation came to you asking for advice. As a business man would you tell him to dump a truck with a fresh motor because he can’t find a place to mount a microwave? Because the 5th wheel doesn’t slide? From where I sit those are foolish reasons to justify getting what you want. My grandma used to say “your want’s won’t hurt you, but your needs might “
     
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