The 34 reset

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  1. 1278PA

    1278PA Road Train Member

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    Ok still slightly confused but i'm getting a better idea.
     
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  3. Bob Dobalina

    Bob Dobalina Road Train Member

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    It's confusing until you actually do it. Then it's still confusing.

    A driver can "burn" his 70-hour clock in 5 days by working 14 hours each day. This guy can work Monday through Friday, have the weekend off, and before they created the restart he wouldn't be able to go back to work on Monday (the 8th day). The restart rule fixes this.
     
  4. misterG

    misterG Road Train Member

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    This isn't quite right. 34hs means just that. Depending on when that driver returned on Friday he could leave sometime after 10am on Sunday.
    The 34 isn't required, but it can only be used once a week.
    Also, if you sit "off duty" for 8hrs, you will have paused your clock, saving the remaining hours for the day to be used as you wish. This is split logging, and can confuse even the most HOS savvy

    The. very best thing you can do. Is sit down with a HOS book and study it. Get to know how the government is going to rule the hours you will be allowed to work.
     
  5. Bob Dobalina

    Bob Dobalina Road Train Member

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    I was referring to how it worked before the 34-hour restart existed. To explain why it was created.

    We don't even want to get into the split sleeper berth deal. You are right that it confuses many drivers. And often gets them into trouble. Let's keep it simple for the new driver.
     
  6. KMac

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    It can be used multiple times a week, the one time provision, along with the 2 1am -5am periods was suspended.

    Also 8 hrs off duty does nothing, it has to be sleeper berth to extend the 14hrs
     
    misterG Thanks this.
  7. KMac

    KMac Road Train Member

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    It is easier to understand each rule by itself, then try to put them together.

    The simplest way to explain it is this

    The 14 hr rule begins when you go on duty the first time, ignoring the split sleeper berth rule, you have exactly 14 hrs from when you start until you can no longer drive without taking a 10 hr break.

    The 11 hr rule. You can drive noore than 11hrs in a given day.

    The 70 hr rule, your on duty, and drive time can not exceed 70 hrs in an 8 day period.

    So daily, the 11 hrs has to fit inside the 14 hr window. You have 14 hrs from the time you start to complete the 11 hrs. If you have only driven 7 at the 14 hr mark, you still have to park it.

    Work on understandimg the basic then the rest will begin to make more sense.
     
  8. JRay

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  9. JRay

    JRay Bobtail Member

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    Thought it was 8 hours in the sleeper for a split log.

    And for someone new i would advise not to split log if you don't trurly understand it.

    And with any breaks id also say go to any truck stop and get you a truck stop book to help you plan your breaks. Cause alot of Wal-Mart even the dcs dont let drivers take 10 hour breaks or even 34s on there property.

    But with the log book once you get on a truck and you work with on and have a good trainer to explain everything to you it will be less confusing.
     
  10. mitmaks

    mitmaks Road Train Member

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    Resets suck, you have to sit somewhere for 34hrs to gain your 70hrs back. If you can plan it so that you can be at home or friends/family for your 34hrs that is great! Otherwise you're stuck at some crummy Peelot parking lot with not much to do.
     
  11. Lepton1

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    You don't get the hours back you didn't use from yesterday, you get the hours back you USED (both drive and on duty time) 8 days ago.

    Let's say you are fresh off a 34, with 70 hours available. You work 10 hours on day 1. On day 2 you have 60 hours on your 70, no hours "coming back" (since the slate was clean) and you work 8 hours. On day 3 you have 52 hours on your 70 and work 8 hours, leaving 44 hours. Let's say you continue to work 8 hours a day through day 8. That leaves 4 hours on your 70.

    On day 9 you have 4 hours plus 10 hours coming back from day 1, giving you 14 hours on your 70. Each day thereafter you gain back whatever hours you USED 8 days ago and add it to whatever is left on your 70.

    Bear in mind that ALL this happens in your home time zone. Your logs are in your home time zone, so at midnight HTZ you get back your rollover hours. If you only have 4 hours left on your 70, but have 10 hours coming back at midnight and need to get a long haul delivered 10 hours away ASAP, you can start your clock at 09:00 pm HTZ and start to run. At midnight those 10 hours are coming back, so you don't need to stop.
     
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