THE ADVENTURES CONTINUE - DFO gets a truck and hops on Schneider's IC Choice Program

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  1. moosc

    moosc Road Train Member

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    le 1. The 2 hour break may be any combination of sleeper and off duty time.

    Rule 2. The 8 hour break must be 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper.

    Rule 3. Only 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper will extend the 14.

    Rule 4. The new 14 begins after the FIRST qualifying break, but not until you have completed the second qualifying break.

    It seems this rule was put in place to make your driving time more flexible, but is so confusing no one uses it, then complains about having to pack a full 11 hours of driving into a 14 hour period making driving a marathon and this is just not the case.

    Here are 2 examples of using the split berth provisions.

    Example 1

    You start a fresh 14. You drive for 5 hours and get hungry. Maybe you want to stop and get a sit down meal, use the restroom, and take a decent break. You take a 2 hour break (any combination of off duty and sleeper). You get back on the road and have 7 hours left of your 14 and 6 hours of driving. Now you drive for 5 more hours and your 11 is almost up. You park and take an 8 hour break in the sleeper. That 8 hour break completes the split berth and after your 8 hour break you have 6 hours of drive time and 9 hours of your 14 left. You did not waste any time, and you did not crush out 10 straight hours of driving. You are not fatigued and feel good.

    Example 2

    You start a fresh 14. But during your 10 hour break you had to do laundry (you do wash your clothes right?), take a shower, maybe talk to family, pay some bills online, whatever. So while you had a 10 hour break in reality you got only 5 hours sleep. You can't sleep past your 10 hour break because you have a pickup appointment you can't miss. So you drive 1 hour to the shipper and make the pickup. You leave the shipper an hour later but you know you shouldn't drive as you are exhausted. So you find a place to park, say an hour away, and take an 8 hour nap in the sleeper. That 8 hour break extends your 14. So after your 8 hour break you still have 11 of your 14 and 9 of your 11. You are well rested and alert now. Now say you drive for 5 hours after your 8 hour nap and stop for a 2 hour break. Now your 14 starts at the end of your previous 8 hour break. You have 6 hours of your 11 left and 7 hours of your 14.
     
  2. w.h.o

    w.h.o Road Train Member

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    Good example....but you're right it's confusing nobody use it.
     
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    Im 99.99% that IC's cant use the split sleeper. only a few understand how to do it, and im not one of them. I think thats why sni dont use it.
     
  4. speedbuggy84410

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    I've used it and no one said a word. And the ELOG is set up for it. I did it by mistake. Was waiting for a load to be loaded. Went to sleeper for 8 hours and when I got up I saw I had lots of time to drive. which was nice since I was going home.
     
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    You are correct.
     
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    They specifically tell IC's in GB they do not allow us to use it. Now if you do I guess it's up to regulatory to catch it and say something...... But if I may ask why would anyone do 8 hours and not just wait 2 more hours and get a fresh 14/11 if 11 is available.
     
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    I use it when it benefits me..leave two hours earlier and beat rush hour traffic..get time at home two hours earlier..it comes in handy in certain situations
     
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    Most elogs calculate the split sleeper for you. It's hard to explain it and it is confusing but if you use it enough you get the hang of it. I understand it but I can't explain it very well lol.

    The the one thing I KNOW for sure. Logging sleeper berth for 2 hours does not extend your clock. Your clock only extends after 8 hours in the sleeper.
     
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    Guess I was wrong. Moose gave a good explanation. I didn't know why the 14 was extended, thought maybe it did it after 2 hours but I guess I actually logged 8 hrs in the SB when I noticed the extended time.
     
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    If you had already done an 8 hr break in the sleeper (but not a full 10) then you will see extended time after 2 hrs off duty. If not then the clock continues to run