They need to mandate hourly w/ OT after 40

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Northeasterner, Jan 21, 2023.

  1. Northeasterner

    Northeasterner Medium Load Member

    Apr 1, 2018
    ... And repeal the trucking exemption to the FLSA.

    Seriously, it's not 1938 anymore, companies know where their drivers are and what they're doing, there are NO excuses for maintaining the exemption to the FLSA. All it does is drive down wages by allowing gimmicky mileage, commission, bonus pay, and load pay structures.

    If companies had to pay their drivers ALL on duty & drive time w/ OT after 40, you can bet they would SCREAM about higher costs, but then start jumping down brokers and warehouses throats. Things would move up, drivers would start moving, no more 8 hour waits, a lot more efficiency.

    The way it stands now, having gimmicky pay lets these costs be shifted onto drivers and not shippers/receivers and ultimately consumers. Hopefully OOIDA makes progress on this issue.

    Just maybe the FLSA will finally apply to trucking

    As an aside, this screws over loaders and mechanics too. It's just absurd, and we all know what would happen if we tried to make an "exemption" for load planners and dispatchers!
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  3. LoneRanger

    LoneRanger Road Train Member

    Jun 3, 2018
    Objective of the game is for the company owners to get rich, not the drivers. 646AA987-E0D4-4DDF-B4DC-5F29041109EB.jpeg
  4. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    in the bush somewhere
    I dunno, there are times I wish I was paid hourly, and other times I'm glad I'm paid the way I am (percentage).

    I think an employer should be able to pay however they choose, but not be legally mandated to choose one or the other.

    I also think that the driver, having the freedom to choose where they work, can decide for themselves whether or not to work for any company, and shouldn't need the government regulations to help them to decide.
  5. Terlingua

    Terlingua Medium Load Member

    Oct 24, 2021
    I don’t think it would actually make that much difference. Companies have a target annual amount they want to pay for a driver, and they’re just going to adjust whatever pay method is used to make sure drivers aren’t going over that target. There are high paying jobs in trucking that pay by mileage, and there are low paying jobs that pay hourly, and vice-versa. In other industries I’ve been in that were subject to overtime, the companies always tried their hardest to make sure nobody got it.
  6. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

    Mar 5, 2012
    Ontario Canada
    How do you want your 70k a year to be printed on your pay stub? You're still going to do 120,000 miles and the same job. Not to mention if paid per hour to get fuel how long you think the average wait will be to get thru a pfj now..
  7. supersnackbar

    supersnackbar Road Train Member

    Aug 19, 2007
    Your Town, USA
    I've seen too many P&D dairy farmer truck drivers....sitting around milking the clock. If it was mandated that all drivers were paid that way, these companies would need to add 10-15% more trucks just to move the same amount of freight, just from the percentage of lazy ##### who ride the clock. Sorry, if you insist on paying me hourly, I will hand you the keys. On OTR, they would have to pay the drivers with experience $35-40/hr to make the kind of money we make on a CPM job.
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2023
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  8. AsphaltFarmer

    AsphaltFarmer Medium Load Member

    Apr 19, 2022
    New Mexico
    I agree with others, there might be a short term dislocation but the pie isn't gonna get cut different for very long if that does happen.

    Related question: do you self educate while driving to learn profitable skills and multi task?
  9. drvrtech77

    drvrtech77 Road Train Member

    Mar 20, 2010
    The market and such should set wages..if driver is top of the line with their credentials and such and an employer deems that driver should be paid top wages, then so be it..if a company doesn’t want to pay good, then the good drivers will go elsewhere..

    does folk’s think that lazy workers who only do the minimum and still have to be told how to do their job deserve top wages?…
  10. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

    Dec 18, 2011
    actually here is what will happen.

    More trucks and more drivers. Limiting them to 40 to 50 hours and that's it.

    Carriers would not tell the warehouses or customers what they have to do, they will not. These customers will tell them they will figure out better ways to move their produces, which could include rail as it used to be.
  11. Northeasterner

    Northeasterner Medium Load Member

    Apr 1, 2018
    Ok. That's fine. Except they can't find drivers as-is.
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2023
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