Sorry to intrude on someone else's post, but here's my .02/
If you want to really do this right, find the carrier you want to drive for first and ensure that you meet their requirements in all areas. MVR, prior criminal history, etc. Some carriers require attending a PTDI school. Some even require a specific GPA at a PTDI school. Since the truck driver training industry is completely un-regulated, it makes some carriers feel much better that you have a PTDI accredited school behind you. This is because it is guaranteed that you have a specific minimum number of hours behind you in classroom, driving and backing with industry-typical equipment (manual transmisisons, preferably more than one).
That's not to say PTDI schools don't fail students-- they can go years between certifications -- but for the cost and effort of PTDI certification, most schools value it and stay on target with keeping their accreditation.
If the carrier who meets your needs, (pay, mileage, regions run, equipment, home time, etc) does not require PTDI, then perhaps you can consider a training school that isn't accredited BUT ask questions as to how many btw (behind the wheel) hours you will receive, how many backing hours you will receive, etc. This is important! Some schools shove six students in a truck for a day and each student is lucky to drive 30 minutes. That's bs and even if the training is cheap, it is NOT worth it. You're just training to be dangerous. To take it a step further, such crap schools will train you only on the DOT route that you'll be taking for the exam (yes, instructors know exactly what these routes are,) and will only train for the test -- NOT to make you a safe, competent new driver. Just the same route over and over, some with automatics. Steer VERY clear of that kind of situation.
Company paid training has its place for some people. If you just cannot afford the tuition at another school, it should be considered with the full knowledge that if you do not hang in with that carrier for the required amount of time, you'll pay all that money anyway!!!!! The trainer might suck, you might be laid over all the time, the equipment might break down twice a week, whatever! You're staying until tuition is paid. Listen to the trainee horror stories -- could you hang tough until tuition is paid off? For God's sake, please never go with a carrier that offers "free" training on automatic transmissions. What a joke. You'll be a slave to that carrier forever, because you will never in a million years pass a road test with another carrier. Shifting a non-synchronized transmission is nothing like a synchronized trans. in a car or straight truck. NOTHING at all. So many people fall for this -- don't be one of them.
Sorry to ramble on a hijacked post for so longBest of luck!
To ALL You Newbies out there
Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by LCCTDT, Oct 19, 2010.
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Hey Scott, good to see you on here....I just finished my final day of school at LCC today, taking my driving test Monday..The final day is actually a day on the skid pad in Marshall. It taught me more than I thought it would, and we all had a blast
After a lot of research I settled on LCC just because the instructors seemed to be there to teach you to drive a truck, not hand out prehire packets and tell you how great the world will be. They seem to have good relationships with smaller regional companies, many of them only hiring graduates from LCC.
Overall, very glad I chose them. Equipment was far above the other two schools I looked at, and got a lot of driving time. To anybody in Michigan I would recommend you check them out..As a bonus I found they were cheaper than the other two I looked at as well..by a lot.LCCTDT Thanks this. -
Hi pcozzy,, PTDI certification to a school is really not worth the money for the certification. What I mean by that is lcc was PTDI certified and matter of fact we had an instructor that sat on the board of the PTDIA and all the PTDIA offered was a curriculum that included 160 hours of training. The only reason some companies prefer a PTDI certification is it insures that you recieved the minimum of 160 hour class. At lcc we have 208 hours and although PTDIA has some good material in their curriculum they just seem to cover basics, we feel we needed to step that up.
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Hi shadowlurker,,, I have heard good things about CDS, they go above par for the student, so I think that would be your best bet. All schools, including our school, can not guarantee you a job, all we can do is give you the statistical feedback of the previouse student job placement. As with anything in life there are pros and cons, I think you are wise to weigh all of them before making any decissions. What way to go, door 1,2 or 3, is totaly up to you (after weighing all the pros and cons of coarse) I would call CDS and ask them if you could talk to some graduates from the program and see for yourself what they have to say. Also ask them if they have a placement percentage I.E. 80 to 90% and within how long after graduation from the program they did find work. As for the tickets you shouldnt worry to much about them but as you know you should be more careful in the future. Another thing I would like to say if you dont mind,,, Whatever way you decide to go, dont go into it as wanting to pass your CDL, think of it as learning to be safe, learning to get the job done the right way, picking up all the info from the pros as possible, and again being SAFE. Almost anyone can pass a CDL test with minimal training, thats the problem with CDL MILLS is they focus too much on passing the CDL test and forget the most important thing, that is safety in and around this industry. The first day of class I ask my students if they are here to pass the CDL or get into a prosperouse career. I dont mean this in any way to be belittling, what I mean is if you focus on doing the job, and doing it the right way the CDL test comes easy. Also try to have fun, the learning process is sometimes stressful and at best frustrating, dont let it get to you. Hope this is helpful.
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Thanks AJ, I hope you do well in your new career and as always be safe. I sure am glad you chose us and hope you had a good time with us as well. Again good luck and congrats.
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No I work for Lansing Community College
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LCCTDT you seem to have a lot of knowledge in all aspects of trucking. maybe you can answer this for me. i have been thinking about getting my CDL for months now but i have a couple DUI's from when i was younger,the last being 17 years ago and have not drank since 1993. also i have some things on my record from over 20 years ago. but honestly can not remember dates and if they were fellonies or misdameanors at the time. so how can i answer the questions on the apps honestly. not sure what to do to go forward. iv'e been studying for my permit and feel i can pass that easily. any advice would be appreciated greatly.
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Hi Psychohunter, Almost all companies only go back 10 years for felonies so dont wory about them,,, felony or misd,,, dont matter. DUIs only 5 years, and only if you didnt get your license suspended, if you did then 10 years. Unless the companies spacificaly ask for more than 10 years history then dont worry about them and go for it if it is something you really want to do. Good luck in your future and keep me posted of your progress, and any other questions you may have. Take Care
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Thanks for your good advice,sir! This is a great thread.
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