Trading hopper bottom for an end dump

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  1. W923

    W923 Road Train Member

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    I am using a 254 inch truck and with my 28’ ravens trailer can do 22.5 tons legal…. That doesn’t mean 30 won’t fit but that’s not what you asked lol
    I can scale 76 or maybe 76.5 idk it’s been a while since I looked at the table and I might be wrong but dot has never questioned it. So to answer your question I loose around 2.5 tons to a similar setup with a 39-40’ frameless mac or an average of $20 per trip but I figure I make that up by being able to work more jobs/days per year because of less concern of soft ground, high winds, or uneven dump sites and maybe a touch of being more maneuverable, although realistically that’s probably not worth talking about.
     
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    Me personally, I'd go 39-40'. The part of the country you're in, there is a lit of east-west freight. If you're more interested in grains, aggregates, etc. get a liner. More metals, no liner and a barn door. JMO, I don't care for a frame trailer at all. If it goes so does the truck, frame less only way to go. Again just my .02
     
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    If you go spread axle, I would put dump valves on the front and rear axles. Get in a tight spot, lift the rear and turn short, hit the highway empty lift the front and roll!
     
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    US Bulk was 28 days to pay, last load for them.
    Sometimes it arrives in 30th day.
     
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    Length of trailer in most states will need to be 39 foot especially if you are going to cross state lines. I have a 40 ft frameless East tandem. with a 285 wheelbase on my Pete. I like a spread axle but I do not like the additional weight that comes with a spread since my truck is heavy at 22k alone. My trailer is 11,500. Keep in mind that you'll need a wetline kit if you don't already. Also a frameless trailer will require blocking so it stays level as the trailer 5th wheel plate does all the swiveling on a frameless. Keep in mind both types of trailers will turn over but a frameless will bite you fast if you don't pay attention.
     
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    meh, there’s no difference, pins on a frame trailer will make it look better but it’s still going over if your ####ed up, Atleast a frameless will leave the truck up right