log actual driving time,log 15 minutes inspections, loading and unloading. everything else off duty,makes it simpler that way. b safe out there
trip planning/logging correctly...
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Nightwind8830, Sep 5, 2014.
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When the truck stops - sleeper or off duty. This includes fuel and post trips, bathroom breaks, backups, the lot.
All events are flagged only, 1 minute max. Flame away guys - but we still have to make it work for the pay check and home time.
Until the company informs me to change my ways, I'll continue. We're 100% drop and hook, but that is logged as sleeper too - who is to say we didn't hook a complete set.Nightwind8830 Thanks this. -
No flame here, B&G, just noting that it's best if you log On Duty while fueling. My company emphasized this as a DOT inspection that shows no On Duty time for fueling is a red flag. Same thing if you do drop and hooks and don't show OD time. Best to have some time logged for those. Other than that I'm with you, if the truck is stopped I'm either in SB or OD. I'll also be OD if the truck is moving in a truck stop.
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blairandgretchen that could be one of the reasons you are driving a corvette be safe
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A corvette? Is that with a 13 speed?
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Yep, log editing is an art form. Be sure to log verifiable items. Fuel purchases, shippers and receivers, food and supplies, these can be checked and verified by an in-depth investigation. You won't get that kind of attention from anyone unless something bad happens, like a collision, especially an at-fault collision. In that case, if you're at fault and the investigation shows you've been using the fudge factor on your logs? Bad things will happen to you. Somewhere in there is a balance between rolling miles/hours/truth. One thing you mentioned, Night, is "I forget to go to sleeper....?" E-logs require careful attention if they're to be a useful tool. For me, I pull into a fuel stop, go off-duty right there, and edit to the minutes I want later, I edit every time I sign off for the day. I use 7-10 minutes for fuel purchase, same for pre-trip. I own my truck, so I'm on it all day every day. If I drove a company truck or slip-seat work (never) I'd spend more time on the inspections. HazMat, I really do check tire pressures every stop, and log some of them but only a couple of minutes. Check that log every shutdown, edit appropriately. You'll need 2,500+ miles to make any money, so protect your on duty driving line.
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I forgot to say, trip planning is probably the most important administrative skill you can develop. Use your GPS, RM Atlas (current version, like the new one shows rest areas, the 2012 didn't) and calls to shipper/consignee, all the information you can accumulate, then make the plan.Your hours, miles and income, expenses, everything you do when you're out will be impacted by your ability to plan your trips. Example: I used to whine about city traffic? Now I plan to go thru major metro at off-peak times, and rarely get into a slowdown. (can always happen, no matter the plan) If you don't have a good plan, you're leaving yourself vulnerable to whatever factors arise during your trip. If you run a HazMat load onto a prevented route, if you get into a low clearance, it's not just about making money. It's your time, make it good.
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When my truck isn't moving I'm off duty. I save all kinds of hours a week! Never need a restart
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I had some one tell me trucking is considered "unskilled labor" and i laughed. Its a learning experience,it certainly could be considered running a mini businesses,its anything but unskilled.
My company is having me sit all weekend at a truck stop in WI because they didn't have any load assignments for me until Monday afternoon. I also sat Thursday due to low hours(my fault,logging poorly thus the post) and friday i had a 6pm appt at the consignees,got there at 10am and they were behind so i sat until 3am the next day before they unloaded the 7 flippin pallets i had . My fm told me not to claim detention pay because that time counted as my 10hr break. Saturday(yesterday) i politely confronted my fm about the about of sitting ,the fact that i was told not to claim detention pay (fm told me it way my final decision to not claim detention pay so its not his fault. He is correct,and i learned from that decision) fm told me to learn quickly so im not getting burned on my paychecks.he told me about layover pay and the criteria to receive it, so that's where i am now. 20 miles from the consignee,and ill be clainig detention pay for a portion of yesterday and all of today.
All venting and complaining aside, this first solo otr experience has taught me that i must be sharp and on point in all things;logging, trip planning, time management, and knowledgeable of company policies to not miss out on compensation for things like detention and layover pay. Ive never had a job i could call a career,certainly never one which could be considered a lifestyle,and never had one ive enjoyed so much(despite the snags I've encountered so far) the office work i did before doesn't hold a candle to driving in any way.Lepton1 Thanks this.
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