Truckers Road Rage Getting Worse

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  1. chico9696

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    http://jacksonville.com/news/2017-01-01/truckers-road-rage-getting-worse-not-better

    Truckers: ‘Road rage’ getting worse, not better

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    Jacksonville-based truckers say that road rage on Florida’s highways is only getting worse, and that other truckers are often part of the problem. (Don Burk/Florida Times-Union file photo).

    If commuters only understood. That is the prevailing mentality of truck drivers when it comes to courtesy, and the lack thereof, on Florida’s highways.

    Jacksonville-based truckers say if people better understood the challenges of driving 18-wheelers, they’d be less inclined to spar with them on the roads.

    Lane changes and merging trigger the vast majority of road rage between trucks and other vehicles, the drivers said. That’s especially true of cars squeezing in front of tractor-trailers, forcing them to slam on the brakes.

    “What the car doesn’t realize is: We’re not as light as they are; we can’t stop as quick as they do,” said Wes Sellars, safety director for Rinaudo Enterprises, a Jacksonville-based trucking company that maintains a fleet of 67 heavy-haul trucks and 77 specialized trailers.

    Hitting the brakes hard on a truck causes dysfunction in the braking system and can shift the truck’s load out of balance, truck drivers said.

    Related: Current traffic conditions around Jacksonville

    They also shared horror stories of truckers being killed after having to veer out of the way of commuters cutting them off. In one Jacksonville incident, a truck driver was killed after becoming a victim of road rage.

    In May, George Guerrero of New Jersey was leaving Jacksonville on Interstate 10 near Chaffee Road when witnesses said a second semi pulled alongside him and bumped his truck. Guerrero was shot and killed by the second truck driver. The Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office has not yet identified a suspect in the shooting.

    Brion Newcomb, a veteran trucker, said he has never experienced any road rage quite like that in his 30 years of driving. But he said other truck drivers are getting just as aggressive as those who drive commuter vehicles.

    “I was brought up old school. My daddy drove,” Newcomb said. “I’ve been around it all my life. I flash lights and try to be courteous, and people just come over without even thanking you.”

    Shawn Raymond, another truck driver, said he hadn’t heard of Guerrero’s death, but he has heard of other truckers being shot at.

    “A lot of us would really, really like to be able to arm ourselves,” said Raymond, who drove trucks in the Army before entering the domestic trucking industry. “It is that big of a concern, that it gets talked about with truckers. … None of us want to be shot at and not be able to shoot back.”

    Company policies and gun laws prevent most truckers from carrying weapons, Raymond said. Gun-free zones such as ports, which truckers frequent, also pose restrictions to carrying firearms as a truck driver.

    Newcomb, for his part, took more of a pacifist route.

    “I try to walk away from a fight; I try to just steer away from everything,” he said. “I have grown to have more patience the more I’ve driven. I have patience that’s just unreal. I don’t let nothing bother me.”

    But the two truckers could agree that road rage is getting worse, and they say it’s related to two other things that are growing more prevalent: traffic, and texting while driving. Newcomb said he often sees drivers drifting all over the road, or driving slowly, then sees that they are holding smartphones when he passes them.

    “Nobody is paying attention,” he said.

    There is also a mentality of anonymity that people get behind the wheel, aided by the idea of a quick getaway, truckers said. Raymond said that people often flip him off and drive away, knowing that he’ll never see them again.

    “If somebody got ticked off at me at the grocery store, well, now I’m standing there,” he said. “That could evolve into something else, and they’d probably think it through a little more .”

    That same thought process could play into the thinking of the man who shot Guerrero, Raymond added.

    “That guy was obviously insane,” he said. “But he thought he could shoot that guy and get away.”

    For now, that’s exactly what’s happened. The Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office has not reported any developments on the investigation into locating Guerrero’s killer since the weeks after his shooting.

    One potential solution to road rage Newcomb suggested was mandatory education on how cars interact with semis when drivers get their licenses.

    “There ought to be a simulator at a DMV where they can try driving a truck and a car pulling out in front of them,” he said. “Nowadays, people just don’t care.”
     
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  3. x1Heavy

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    Not too much the trucker road rage, but rather the trucker being a slob or idiot. It's a broad brush, go to any fuel line in any truckstop, spend 10 minutes of your life there and examine the quality of humanity that drives 18 wheelers. Flip flop and poor physical fitness does not a trucker make.

    The cars are the trouble makers. If there is going to be a accident, the car is going to be the one that kicks off the wrecking process. Usually. But not always. Once in a while a Semi decides to get destructive and THAT is something NO one wants.

    In the mean time enjoy the endless darwin stream of idiots brake checking 18 wheelers at speed only to learn to their regret that it costs too much.
     
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  4. x1Heavy

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    There are simulators out there. Detriot Built Citations come to mind. Geo Car is another. Yugo is a third. This one is a horribly easily stolen care for some people to steal. Diplomats are another. Grenadas and pony cars for sure,,,
     
  5. x1Heavy

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    Most people who drive are generally never pushed so far that they actually flipped.

    If I decided to flip and still have my rational thinking as pertains to mass, impact forces and cost of same... I would suddenly be more dangerous than any salivating terrorist taking his incentivize day in a San Diego Beach.

    I recall three that did flip. One was stopped by the sheel threat and once fired soda round sized bullet out of a early Barrrett model on a divided higway in texas as the story goes, not too far from Grissom. Which for sepcific reasons I consider a well done situation left behind to uplift those who have need of God's Grace. Another flipped. He circled Sacramento City hall several times befoer somehow being diverted onto a harmless road without too many options. You think a wily trucker would no better than to be so supid, But...if you are blind in battle you will lose the war.

    This third one He managed to do a little bit of damage to his water system. However decades later the San Fran's debt ridden ill and sick careftaker sneezed a few times, fell into a few new holes tripping over fresh money and was told to build one little dam over 2 months. Most of the work will be done with out him thank you kindly.

    The result of that room will provide San Fran with a battle calm of sorts knowing there is water a while Maybe until they get a few front end loaders and clear the way to San Onfrenas Dam a few miles down the road agains all opposition.
     
  6. JakeG

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    This got me thinking of E-Logs. I realize they are not completely the culprit here but most these truck drivers, myself included are running as hard as they possibly can in the 11 hours they are given.
     
  7. JakeG

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    With that in mind you have people driving four wheelers that just got off an 12+ hour shift on the roads. How is that any more safe? You have physicians who make life pending decisions working well over 14 hours a shift.
     
  8. TravR1

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    That’s exactly right. Just today, I come into work at 11Pm and see someone still working that arrived to work at 6AM that morning when I left. Then she goes and drives home and no one thought anything of it.

    I get that semis are hazardous but it’s primarily because of 4-wheelers. They get to operate with impunity while the less mobile and manuverable semi seems to expected to do more
     
  9. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    Well here goes and let the flaming begin......old news--nothings changed...happens every minute of every day for years and years.....part of the job....everything else is just an excuse...learn to deal with it...anticipate...increase following distance...be courteous....let em go...chillax...had worked for thousands of us over the years......You are the master of your destiny.....
     
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  10. Justrucking2

    Justrucking2 Road Train Member

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    From the article, "If commuters only understood. That is the prevailing mentality of truck drivers when it comes to courtesy, and the lack thereof, on Florida’s highways."

    Real simple, we now have egg timers on our dash boards, well I get mine Monday, but I have run a truck with one in it. You play beat the clock... Welcome to the new reality, and get the h e l l out of my way before the darn thing goes off!
     
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