Trying to make decision

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by HeartHooves, Feb 9, 2013.

  1. HeartHooves

    HeartHooves Light Load Member

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    I just finished reading the threads by OverRoadGuy. All I can say is, wow. I LOT of food for thought. :biggrin_2556:

    I am trying to make a decision here as well. I am currently driving with a class B. I had a family member talk me into it. After 3 years of nagging me about it, I gave in. I really enjoy the driving part. Some of the people I have to deal with pluck my nerves, but generally I don't have any major problems. I also really like the company I work for, they're good people and the office staff is fantastic.:yes2557:

    So, if I like my job so much, why am I considering the life of a trucker? Simple. the money. O.k., I know, it's rare for a trucker to get rich, I understand that. But do you think I can do better than $500-$1500 a month? I think I've seen the $1500 mark twice since I've been with this company (that's 3 years). We are currently just keeping our heads above water. We pay our bills, but there is NOTHING extra. My DH's car is going on a wing and a prayer, and our roof looks like it will need to be replaced within 5 years. Any appliance that breaks down, stays broke. Don't ask me what's keeping the washer going!:biggrin_25511:

    "But, what about your family?" you ask. Valid question. Kid is long since grown. The only thing I am to my DH is a cook. Everything else, he can handle. It's no biggy, believe me.:biggrin_25512: And, before you ask, NO, he will NOT be doing ORT with me. He is the WORST "back seat driver", and the most inattentive driver I have to drive with! So no, ain't happen'n.

    So, what are my concerns then?
    Well, mainly, how's the work out there? Is it worth me putting out the dollars to pursue this venture? Money is tight for us right now, but if it's worth the investment then I'll do it.

    I have contacted a driving school in my neck of the woods that I can probably get into easy enough when I'm ready. Still checking out options in that regard. I know that I do not want to go with a training company that expects me to sign a service contract. The school I'm looking at seems to be well accepted by some of the companies I am considering, so that's a plus.

    I have never done anything criminal. Don't do drugs, alcohol, or tobacco. However, I do have a "fender bender" that happened soon after I began driving professionally. That is the one thing that has me a little nervous. It will be not quite 3 yrs. when I'm looking to start school from when it happened. Do you think I can still get a job? I know I can get into school, that's the easy part. But how much of a factor is that accident going to be these days for getting a job with a decent company?

    Any feed back would be great.:Horses:
     
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  3. pokerhound67

    pokerhound67 Heavy Load Member

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    well, comparatively at least, the short answer is yes. at $1500 per month every month, you are still only making $18k per year. and you said 1500 is rare, so probably closer to $15k...wow.

    1st year as a 1st seat driver (after cdl school and after the time with a trainer) you should expect to make around $35k. anything less, theres either something wrong with you or the company (or both).

    i would NOT invest any money into it until i found out about government assistance. maybe you left out the part where dh makes 30k per year, but if you are REALLY living on 15k per year, you should qualify for assistance (for tuition i mean). if you dont, then shop around. i live in new york, yet went to a school in indiana (c1, indianapolis) because they guaranteed job placement after graduation with my choce of 3 companies. they also would finance the whole thing if you didnt have the money to pay up front. even financed, at $4k, the tuition wouldve been cheaper than ANY company school ive heard statistics on. figure with finance charges $4500. most companies will pay $100 per month tuition reimbursement, so the REAL cost of c1 after 1 year with my starter company wouldve been $3300. they also offered a 50% deal ($2k) if paid up front, so we did that. real cost to me for school...$800 after 1 year (usa truck paid me $1200 in that 1 year tuition reimbursement). not saying c1 is the best thing out there, just the only thing i have experience with.

    1 small accident should not be a problem with most starter companies. it may limit your options SOMEWHAT, but will not hinder you significantly. after its 3 years old more doors open up. as long as you werent understating it when you called it a fender bender, should not be a major hurdle.

    one thing id say is do NOT do lease purchase through a company. most are scams (not all, but even a legit one will have you paying way too much for your truck, and how do you tell the legit ones from the "less than legit" ones?) if you decide you want to buy a truck, save up and buy one. or go to a company like lone mountain leasing to buy one. or look into road runner..they partner with a few different lease purchase companies. any of these ways give you more control...if the company you drive for isnt doing right by you, its YOUR truck, and you can go elsewhere to find an o/o gig. with lease purchase through the company you work for, if they are making you go broke, you can only walk away (and maybe not even that!!!) and lose all the money youve put into the truck already.

    the thing about trucking that gets many is the lifestyle. otr is away from home for 2 or more weeks at a time, and home for a few days, repeat. if you think thats for you, then by all means go for it. remember, though, that $35k i mentioned at the top? its not what you can use to pay the bills at home. the road expenses are significant...you still have to eat. but you SHOULD be able to save 15-20k in the 1st year to devote to household expenses, after taxes and road expenses.
     
  4. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    NJ has a few programs that can help you. I don't know how you do it in Jersey on $1500 a month.
     
  5. HeartHooves

    HeartHooves Light Load Member

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    Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. Yes, DH has a job and is making between $30-35k/yr. Thing is, I lost a decent paying job back in 2007, so our income was cut in half. Then I got a serious infection and was hospitalized a couple months after I lost my job and benefits. So, our savings were pretty much wiped out in short order.
    Now the accident? Well, to me it was horrible! But my boss didn't seem to think it was that serious. So, not sure how you'd read that. According to the guy's lawyer he was injured, but I strongly dispute it. I think he was after an "easy paycheck" and my boss concurred.
     
  6. HeartHooves

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    Didn't have time to fully reply last night, had to go make a run.
    I know not to even consider a lease to own deal. Does not impress me as being a good investment of my $$'s. At this point, I have no desire to be an o/o.
    Oh, and my accident, the vehicle I was driving has a lot of plastic in the front. The other vehicle was steel. Steel vs. plastic, the plastic looses every time.
    Being away from home is NOT a big deal for me. Actually, that's one of the pluses of the job for me. My biggest concern is sleeping. I have never been able to sleep in a moving vehicle, so I don't think driving team would be a good option for me. Not sure about changing sleep shifts to accommodate various pick up/delivery schedules. I just don't know how I would do. I may be fine, I may not, don't know till I try.
    Right now, I'm trying to get an economic sense. Are there jobs out there for newbies? Is there enough jobs out there for those looking for jobs? This economy still stinks (don't care what the boobs in D.C. say), and I believe it's not going to get any better any time soon. Is it worth me leaving a job that I have held for 3 years to go into trucking as a newbie? Would I end up going from a little to nothing?
     
  7. road_runner

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    Check with the job corps. My buddy got his schooling financed with them. He now makes like $10k a month driving water trucks in the oil field. As for me, I got my schooling paid with my GI Bill. I run local LTL (Linehauls) and make about $4200 a month (before taxes, medical, 401k contribution). Hope this helps. Good luck.
     
  8. HeartHooves

    HeartHooves Light Load Member

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    Well, that certainly is somewhat encouraging. I've gathered that there seems to be plenty of jobs where there are oil fields, like in Texas and North Dakota. As much as I would love to relocate out of NJ, I'm kind of stuck having it as my "home base" for a couple more years. How's it looking on the east coast for newbies?
     
  9. HeartHooves

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    O.k., staying with the financial theme of this post, something occurred to me last night. IF I decided to go through with this, will I need to purchase tools for my truck? I own a few tools, but I don't know if any are appropriate for a big rig. What kind of $$ would I be looking at if I had to purchase the most important tools for starting out? Does a truck come with any tools at all?
     
  10. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Do some research on expedite here . You will make more in an expedite straight truck with your class B than new drivers make with a Class A . You can start right out with full pay with out paying for schooling and spending weeks with a trainer .
     
    skellr Thanks this.
  11. HeartHooves

    HeartHooves Light Load Member

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    Thank you, that is very worth looking into and I will do so. Seeing as I am not making any move till June, I still want to explore OTR. IF I went with the class A, would the pay for driving a big rig eventually surpass what I would make just driving with my class B? I'm trying to get the full picture here.
     
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