Under $2/mile loads with $6/gal diesel.

And that’s the end of the story there, right?

 

I'm just trying to be transparent...

 

The real person that should have a issue is the OEM shipper. So I pay XYZ broker to ship my freight 5000 dollhairs. I no longer have a traffic department because of corp cut backs and this 3pl/broker guarantees service and efficiency. Then I start noticing the rolling junk yard of equipment is showing up. 20 yearold van trailers, flatbeds with out chains, or tarps. Then I find out from the rumdumb driver dragging his side farings on my parking lot and backing into building causing damage. He hauled it for 2000 dollhairs. I would loose it. However these large corp are so disconnected. They don't know or care. So I don't care.

I'm here to make a million dollars, not a million friends.

 

@TallJoe , here you go.

You might understand after watching, why he is what he is.

To be honest, as a new O/O 8 years ago, most of what he said went straight over my head. I know you’re not new to this game, but the next time we broke bread, I understood a little better.

And it's unlikely you'll get to pay for your meal, and the shirt that clothes his back might be on yours if you needed it.

 

A person who is pragmatic is concerned more with matters of fact than with what could or should be. A pragmatic person's realm is results and consequences.

 

I understand that it's "in the books" and whatever - but in my short time in the game, it's not the reality.

Like you said, you could request the information, but forget that you'll ever book a load with that broker again.

In the Landstar system, they appear to have that all wrapped up - in the 'LOSM' tab, you can see all documents and charges paid from whoever the load was purchased from, to the driver. Problem is - if CHR is who Landstar purchased the load from, you'll never see what CHR actually received from the shipper/manufacturer (as @Ridgeline said - the OEM).

The Landstar board is trashed with sub agents that simply scan the boards and re-post. I'm all for his suggestion of legislation that limits this to "One shipper - One broker - One carrier" - and not for transparency or morals and ethics purposes . . .

For the simple fact. Less middle men makes for efficiency. ESPECIALLY in platform freight. Countless times I've been on site to load where they tell me that a 53' van came to load an oversize piece of freight. It's the excess of muppets in between that waste resources.

Maybe this is a different problem between van/reefer and platform freight. I dunno. Educate me. I do know there is no 'point and click loads' that exist in platform, unless you're willing to drive yourself into a plethora of unknown challenges for the lowest possible bid.

 

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what the broker gets paid...they are the ones that hold the contract to move the goods.

 

I did make that thread:
Market rates: By Carriers, for Carriers

I ran mileage for metros to keep as a reference when considering loads...it's a partial list but I wanted to provide enough data to compare with those that want to be transparent and possibly help another carrier out...

 

#### two truck loads in one week, if I have to work, guess I might as well be lazy about it….

I don’t know how some do it just off load boards, one guy taking a little bit in the middle doesn’t bother me as long as we both can make a little bit, I would rather them crack down on the double/triple/quadruple brokering then the transparency of what the broker is bidding the work for.

 

We've hauled 2 loads in the last 7 weeks. We've been waiting for the rest of you to join us.

So what are your excuses?