Under $2/mile loads with $6/gal diesel.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by kay_ray, Oct 11, 2022.

When will another strike happen

  1. No strike

    44 vote(s)
    43.6%
  2. Is $2/mile cheap ?

    4 vote(s)
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  3. I run at $2/mile

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  4. Strike in 3 months

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  5. Strike right now

    16 vote(s)
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  6. I don't care

    26 vote(s)
    25.7%
  7. I am a broker idgaf

    8 vote(s)
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  1. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    It is funny to see like the discussion here is appalling to you, to the point of vomiting. Yet somehow you are attracted to it.
    Oh..Oh..Please don't....
    I am kidding...
     
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  3. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    What's in your wallet?
     
  4. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    You have shown your high $ balances before and now the shoes.
     
  5. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Those are photo chopped.
     
  6. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Given - there is the dichotomy.

    I shouldn't even bother to engage these fools - or attempt to educate them, but if given time, I will.

    I'm not slightly interested in his load.

    But I neither have to engage with him, nor be in a position to negotiate with him.

    You got me there.

    Read back few posts.
     
  7. jaffles

    jaffles Light Load Member

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    interesting thread guys and I feel for you all.

    I have very similar circumstances down under but without the brokers. I feel the family business with relatively limited sales opportunities for the product (spring water), my hands are tied due to limited customers who most have contracts with other larger customers. These contracts are to national supermarkets advertising they will always have the lowest prices ever day filter back to whats on offer to me. Add a sizeable local and national transport operator running very thin margins as the competition, and its hard. These blokes also filter into the few smaller customers who once honoured relationships and loyalty, but from their own pressures now honour price over anything else.

    Yes I make a living but I'm also being screwed on fair price for unavoidable costs, no matter how I attempt to trim them. I can't change Putins war, not the price of tyres, parts, about etc.

    One thing I have picked up in life though, screaming at the world to change changes nothing. It is I who has to change, to fit in......somewhere, if I'm not happy.

    Driving a truck gives you plenty of time to think. Youse it wisely, you don't have to sing all day or slip the noggin into cruise control.

    I have used time to start developing a product for the transport industry. It won't be revolutionary but make truckers life's easier and potentially has a use for every truck on the road. It wont also be the silver bullet for freedom, fairness, nor autonomy; but its a choice to keep playing in the game you're getting squeezed in, or try your luck elsewhere.

    Time is perhaps one of the greatest assets to trucking. The broker has none of it, #### him.



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  8. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    The sine wave, the cyclical market.

    It's rough on folks that aren't prepared for it . . .
     
  9. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    The American Dream? That's a thing?
     
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  10. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Hey - you and your kangaroos can see yourself out of this discussion right this minute, or I'll blast you with a bunch of scones, kiwis, and other horrid malt extracts.

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  11. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    I don't think it's so much that they're taking the broker's side. I personally don't have a dog in the fight. I'm just of the mindframe that you get your money however you get it. The other members just have it in their minds that they won't haul for a price that doesn't work for them. If they know what will work for their business, why does broker transparency matter? At the end of the day, if more owner ops are smartened up to the business, have enough cash, and are willing to wait it out, at some point you can force the broker's hand in paying to get that load moved. I have seen it happen myself in a negotiation. I personally feel like if it weren't so easy for people to go into business for themselves, you could make adequate money. Too many drivers go in without enough cash, credit or both. I don't really get capping profits either. A broker could be telling you what they get, but they'll find a truck to haul it so i don't see where that would help an owner. That load will get moved some kind of way. I think if an owner really wants to maximize his or her power, the best way to do that is product/industry knowledge as opposed to certain regs or transparency.
     
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