Everyday the news media tell us the pay for truck drivers is going up, the need for more drivers continues to grow. The population of America in 2018 was about 226 million. The population in 2022 was about 234 million plus how many thousands upon thousands of illegals so the need to move freight should be up. More people means more food needed, more gadgets being shipped, etc.
Look at truck driver forums and you hear freight is down so what gives?
How can the demand for more drivers continue to rise at the same time the current drivers are finding it hard to keep busy?.
According to the IBISWorld there are approx 420 cdl schools in America churning out new cdl grads on a regular basis yet the industry never seems to have enough according to the news.
Here are my questions:
01. How big of an impact will lowering the age have on wages and demand for the current drivers
02. How soon do you expect dock to dock trucking to be highly if not fully automated
03. What impact do you see taking place in the next 10 years as far as electric vehicles for trucking
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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Jumpman, Apr 21, 2023.
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Where in the world do you get 226/234 million?
Us Population is 331 million
Labor force population is about 164 million
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I believe it's hard to come up with actual counts. We hear monthly Govt reports that say "There was 2.6 million new jobs added last month" . How the hell-o do they come up with this #? Or the one we hear all the time, the trucking industry can't fill all the openings. Supply and demand, I guess. But I do have a question.....at the grocery store, if the shelf is almost empty of a certain product, is it because the trucking co is short of drivers (to deliver the load) or is it because the manufacturer is behind in manufacturing the product ?
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I doubt any new jobs are being created.
Some lazy people are now being forced back into the workforce because they have run out of ways to game the welfare system.
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In January there were 11.3 million job openings, 6.5 million hires and 6.1 million separations, according to the Department of Labor’s latest Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey.
There are more than 11 million open jobs in America right now - CNBC
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02. My opinion well over a decade if not 2. The tech needs a whole lot of development. My biggest concern is I live along one of the highways identified to teach the trucks how to drive by both Pacar and Daimler. Thankfully I have good non interstates to keep them away from me.
03. Electric trucks may roll out in that time frame for the Port to DC, urban/metro delivery, and home every night business models. Essentially the stuff that is currently running or converting to propane. At this time electric are not practical for wide spread use in long haul. One thing that is being pushed is to use them for relay runs. I have seen photos of a potato chip producer (very light weight loads) running one now. One thing to keep in mind is that not all trucks are class 8 tractor trailer setups.Long FLD, bryan21384 and Jumpman Thank this. -
Wages are subjective.
An average driver who is hitting his full 70 for 50 weeks is working 2500 hours.
In order for the wage to be close to minimal, he will be making a gross of $38,500.
Right now we need fewer drivers and definitely not those under 21.Nashville, tscottme, Blu_Ogre and 1 other person Thank this. -
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70 x 50 is 3500
Or maybe it’s a fat fingered typo like I do all the time.
the wages are up for some and down for some .
but if you have skills that the average flip flop wearing driver doesn’t have ,
You can earn more than they do .
my roommate drives a brand new W-900-L (he even got to go to the KW dealer and select the color when the company ordered it ) for a small 6 to 10 trucks heavy haul company , made $97k last year on his W-2 and was home every weekend .
You can’t compete with the megas or with the immigrant drivers doing normal 53 foot dry vans .
You have to find a niche that they can’t do.
The company he works for requires spotless credit , zero criminal record , clean driving record , does a thorough background investigation on the driver and the drivers family, and requires the driver to be native born citizen .
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